NLP hypnosis,meditation

JoeW said:
From what I have read on AZB some of the postings are more literate than others.

Read the literature and then decide for yourself. That is why I cited the literature before referring you to the short articles I have written.

In general (not always) when the more serious articles are presented on Wikepedia they are reviewed and updated by people who know the topic well. When things are posted that are not accurate they are often updated by people who know what they are talking about. That is one of the appeals of the Wiki: The world participates in the construction of it. Within the good review articles, like the one referenced, there are references to the literature that lead to the conclusions presented. You can dig deeper as you prefer.

Within the actual articles the authors often cite the opposing points of view and thus you have a reference to what the minority says as well as the people who wrote the articles. So within the wiki reports you have the very real names of the people who have studied, how they studied, and what they found. Because it is all laid out before you you can of course form your own opinion based on some of the best available information.

If you do not want to be bothered by the facts or consensus opinion that would be your choice. Others who post here might find them of interest. It is certainly true that there is a continuing search for the best information and our (western civilization's) ideas are continually under review.

For my part I do not place much credence in any one person's opinion. It is just that and of limited use. I prefer the consensus from many people who have studied the topic over many years. Each may have their own bias but when taken together the truth (as best we can know it - today) seems to come through.

Incidently, any thinking person should be leary of any information presented. That it what it means to be a thinking person. Some information is better than others but it needs to be reviewed with a skeptical frame of mind.
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And this is coming from Sigmound Frued. Sorry I couldn't resist. :)
 
NewStroke said:
And this is coming from Sigmound Frued. Sorry I couldn't resist. :)
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Actually I was a multivariate behavioral therapist trained in the use of advanced statistical techniques. I think that Freud made some contributions to our understanding of the mind but that much of his thinking, especially the aspects that are widely discussed, have little merit. I specialized in the use of advanced statistical methods to understand the behavior disorders (violent people, drug addiction, and the psychopathic personality). In general I subscribed to behavioral models for the diagnosis and treatment of criminal behavior in children and adults.
 
JoeW said:
Actually I was a multivariate behavioral therapist trained in the use of advanced statistical techniques. I think that Freud made some contributions to our understanding of the mind but that much of his thinking, especially the aspects that are widely discussed, have little merit. I specialized in the use of advanced statistical methods to understand the behavior disorders (violent people, drug addiction, and the psychopathic personality). In general I subscribed to behavioral models for the diagnosis and treatment of criminal behavior in children and adults.
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oh crap, that back fired. :eek:
 
JoeyA said:
Corey,
If you don't mind, what were your goals and what did the meditation do for you?

Was the meditation a clearing of all thoughts in your mind or was the meditation a focus on particular thoughts?

Sometimes, I think my thoughts are scattered and I think about everything except shooting the shot, then other times, I am too hyped up to play my best pool. Every once in a while, I tire and know my goose is cooked when that happens.

Anyway, if you could elaborate a bit more on the meditation, I would appreciate it.


thanks,
JoeyA
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I had no specific goals with regard to Insight Meditation; however it did help he a great deal in managing my myself whilst my father was dying and ultimately through his passing.

The general goal of insight mediation is: a clearing of the mind, focus on breathing, and as thoughts enter your mind simply accept/acknowledge them then let them continue on their way. This was done for 45 minutes at a time.

The primary thing I guess is that you may not be in control of what thoughts come into your mind, but you are in control of what you focus on.

Thoughts will come, but you do not need to stay with them - if you get my meaning.

On another note, did Yoga too. It never stuck as a regular routine, but Yoga is the triple nuts! I will bring this back into my regimen soon.
 
CrownCityCorey said:
I had no specific goals with regard to Insight Meditation; however it did help he a great deal in managing my myself whilst my father was dying and ultimately through his passing.

The general goal of insight mediation is: a clearing of the mind, focus on breathing, and as thoughts enter your mind simply accept/acknowledge them then let them continue on their way. This was done for 45 minutes at a time.

The primary thing I guess is that you may not be in control of what thoughts come into your mind, but you are in control of what you focus on.

Thoughts will come, but you do not need to stay with them - if you get my meaning.

On another note, did Yoga too. It never stuck as a regular routine, but Yoga is the triple nuts! I will bring this back into my regimen soon.
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Very sorry to hear about your father passing. You must have been very close.

I get your meaning quite well. I like the part about not having control of what thoughts come into your mind, but you are in control of what you focus on. That would help me a great deal in pool. Now to google "insight meditation".

Thanks.
JoeyA
 
JoeyA said:
Very sorry to hear about your father passing. You must have been very close.

I get your meaning quite well. I like the part about not having control of what thoughts come into your mind, but you are in control of what you focus on. That would help me a great deal in pool. Now to google "insight meditation".

Thanks.
JoeyA
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I'll often mention to my patients/clients, while facilitating an hypnotic trance or mindful meditation, "The mind thinks that's what the mind does. You can't hardly stop thinking, but you neither have to fight nor follow the thoughts."

Mind/Body Pool
 
edd said:
I'll often mention to my patients/clients, while facilitating an hypnotic trance or mindful meditation, "The mind thinks that's what the mind does. You can't hardly stop thinking, but you neither have to fight nor follow the thoughts."

Mind/Body Pool
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I like those words, Ed. They are also in your self-hypnosis CD. The whole CD is filled with good stuff and even has some good visualizations techniques as it applies to pool. Not bad for a man with your credentials.

You really ought to have a link to a web site where people can purchase your CD online.

JoeyA
 
JoeyA said:
I like those words, Ed. They are also in your self-hypnosis CD. The whole CD is filled with good stuff and even has some good visualizations techniques as it applies to pool. Not bad for a man with your credentials.

You really ought to have a link to a web site where people can purchase your CD online.

JoeyA
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Thanks, Joey. I have thought of doing that. I'll probably need to enlist the services of the web hosting agency, to assist me in marketing via my web site. Meanwhile, in spite of the understandable inconvenience, interested parties will need to purchase the item with a money order.
 
CrownCityCorey said:
I had no specific goals with regard to Insight Meditation; however it did help he a great deal in managing my myself whilst my father was dying and ultimately through his passing.

The general goal of insight mediation is: a clearing of the mind, focus on breathing, and as thoughts enter your mind simply accept/acknowledge them then let them continue on their way. This was done for 45 minutes at a time.

The primary thing I guess is that you may not be in control of what thoughts come into your mind, but you are in control of what you focus on.

Thoughts will come, but you do not need to stay with them - if you get my meaning.

On another note, did Yoga too. It never stuck as a regular routine, but Yoga is the triple nuts! I will bring this back into my regimen soon.
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Congratulations on having a pretty good week at the U.S. Open 10 Ball Championship!
 
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