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Where's thee only area on the cue ball that will not create backspin after striking an object ball?
 
Where's thee only area on the cue ball that will not create backspin after striking an object ball?

anything above the center line

"Will not", or "can not"?

It depends on the orientation of the cue stick and the force of the stroke.

With an elevated cue stick, I can draw the ball even striking above the equator. I can also strike the cue ball pretty much anywhere such that it will not draw…

I might be missing something, but I would say the answer would be a perfectly vertical cue stick striking the exact top of the cue ball. How you would actually hit an object ball by doing that though, I don't know…
 
If you hit with top spin, but strike a rail first, it tends to hit the object ball with draw….at fairly straight angles.
…..if it’s a long angle, it remains top spin.
 
"Will not", or "can not"?

It depends on the orientation of the cue stick and the force of the stroke.

With an elevated cue stick, I can draw the ball even striking above the equator. I can also strike the cue ball pretty much anywhere such that it will not draw…

I might be missing something, but I would say the answer would be a perfectly vertical cue stick striking the exact top of the cue ball. How you would actually hit an object ball by doing that though, I don't know…
With an elevated stick hitting below the centerline will create backspin on the cueball. Have you ever seen players do a jump shot with draw? The elevation creates jump on the ball. hitting below the center line on the elevation creates backspin on the ball
 
The correct answer is that there is no contact point that will create backspin after striking an object ball. The backspin is created before striking an object ball.
Ha, ha, I think you are right......maybe it was a trick question.

On the other hand, maybe he was asking about putting backspin on the object ball.
 
"Will not", or "can not"?

It depends on the orientation of the cue stick and the force of the stroke.

With an elevated cue stick, I can draw the ball even striking above the equator. I can also strike the cue ball pretty much anywhere such that it will not draw…

I might be missing something, but I would say the answer would be a perfectly vertical cue stick striking the exact top of the cue ball. How you would actually hit an object ball by doing that though, I don't know…
With an elevated stick hitting below the centerline will create backspin on the cueball. Have you ever seen players do a jump shot with draw? The elevation creates jump on the ball. hitting below the center line on the elevation creates backspin on the ball
 
With an elevated stick hitting below the centerline will create backspin on the cueball. Have you ever seen players do a jump shot with draw? The elevation creates jump on the ball. hitting below the center line on the elevation creates backspin on the ball
It depends on how you defined "centerline"

Jumping with backspin or follow isn't difficult at all.

But you need to ensure you hit either above or below the "equator" which, as PJ mentioned, changes with elevation of the cue.
 
"Will not", or "can not"?

It depends on the orientation of the cue stick and the force of the stroke.

With an elevated cue stick, I can draw the ball even striking above the equator. I can also strike the cue ball pretty much anywhere such that it will not draw…

I might be missing something, but I would say the answer would be a perfectly vertical cue stick striking the exact top of the cue ball. How you would actually hit an object ball by doing that though, I don't know…
Will not come back after striking object ball, when shooting with bridge hand on table cloth, not top rail. Good question Dave.
I know what you're saying, but the "equator" isn't always horizontal - it tilts with the stick. It always takes a below-equator hit to produce backspin.

pj
chgo

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No sir.....
 
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The correct answer is that there is no contact point that will create backspin after striking an object ball. The backspin is created before striking an object ball.
True/did you add semantics :)....but in the OP I did say this '' after striking an object ball''
 
Example?

pj
chgo
You got it PJ....and I know you know this.
I found this concept at first, hard to explain during my early years of teaching. 20 hrs a mth for 10 yrs.

Tablecloth allows a back spinning CB to reverse direction when in contact with an obj. if it's still rotating.
This occurs in varying degrees..... except vertically above perfect center ball to 12 o'clock high.

To help my students understand, I tell them the nose of the rail is also covered with tablecloth.
I don't say this to be a smart ass, I just want them to understand what I'm about to say.

Put and obj. ball anywhere, but to simplify this explanation, have it a balls width away from the cushion, one diamond away from the corner pocket.
Address whitey on a horizontal plane, one tip from center to the right, creating your 3 o'clock cueing.

What happens? I know you know.

Visual....
If you were to put your left ear ''on the table'' and look at that set up, you become to realize your drawing whitey with a one tip below center draw shot off the cushion, back towards you and the other side of table.
 
You got it PJ....and I know you know this.
I found this concept at first, hard to explain during my early years of teaching. 20 hrs a mth for 10 yrs.

Tablecloth allows a back spinning CB to reverse direction when in contact with an obj. if it's still rotating.
This occurs in varying degrees..... except vertically above perfect center ball to 12 o'clock high.

To help my students understand, I tell them the nose of the rail is also covered with tablecloth.
I don't say this to be a smart ass, I just want them to understand what I'm about to say.

Put and obj. ball anywhere, but to simplify this explanation, have it a balls width away from the cushion, one diamond away from the corner pocket.
Address whitey on a horizontal plane, one tip from center to the right, creating your 3 o'clock cueing.

What happens? I know you know.

Visual....
If you were to put your left ear ''on the table'' and look at that set up, you become to realize your drawing whitey with a one tip below center draw shot off the cushion, back towards you and the other side of table.
"Rail-draw" - that's some outside-the-box genius right there, ID...

Thanks!

pj
chgo
 
You got it PJ....and I know you know this.
I found this concept at first, hard to explain during my early years of teaching. 20 hrs a mth for 10 yrs.

Tablecloth allows a back spinning CB to reverse direction when in contact with an obj. if it's still rotating.
This occurs in varying degrees..... except vertically above perfect center ball to 12 o'clock high.

To help my students understand, I tell them the nose of the rail is also covered with tablecloth.
I don't say this to be a smart ass, I just want them to understand what I'm about to say.

Put and obj. ball anywhere, but to simplify this explanation, have it a balls width away from the cushion, one diamond away from the corner pocket.
Address whitey on a horizontal plane, one tip from center to the right, creating your 3 o'clock cueing.

What happens? I know you know.

Visual....
If you were to put your left ear ''on the table'' and look at that set up, you become to realize your drawing whitey with a one tip below center draw shot off the cushion, back towards you and the other side of table.
Very nice... Looks like my popcorn has some crow in it ;)
 
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