No more Meucci for this guy

Schon isn't making sharp pointed cues either...so it's kind of not the same deal, but I get your point.


The thing is that Meucci must be aware that their reputation was suffering, so one would think they would be working hard to improve it. I don't think this latest development reflects that kind of effort
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Whether or not people are right in how they think or feel on the matter isn't really the point I think. Meucci may or may not have deserved the loss of reputation they had, but it certainly seems to be quite real to a fair number of people. We hear about it virtually constantly.



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Actually i believe it does. If he has been told that his older cues with the muecci original logos were better wouldnt it be smart to bring back something to the market that says to the customer "quality"?
 
it's MUCH easier, and cheaper, to change logo than improve quality

SAW MILL???shafts were cut, bleached and kiln dried in the Olive Branch factory location prior to the ill conceived move to Sledge:smile:

BROKE???whose name is the Byhalia facility in???:smile:
 
it's MUCH easier, and cheaper, to change logo than improve quality

SAW MILL???shafts were cut, bleached and kiln dried in the Olive Branch factory location prior to the ill conceived move to Sledge:smile:

BROKE???whose name is the Byhalia facility in???:smile:

Do you know they are not improving their actual product first hand? I dont own one and dont like 3/4 of their designs but maybe this is the first step in a major over haul in their business?
 
Do you know they are not improving their actual product first hand? I dont own one and dont like 3/4 of their designs but maybe this is the first step in a major over haul in their business?

a primary forecasting principle is that the future will resemble the past

How much do you want to bet that new cues with old logos will have a positive influence on perceived quality over the next couple of years?
 
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Mike:

For those cues you describe, would this acronym apply?

[M]anaged
[E]xperiment
[U]nderwhich
[C]ue
[C]atastrophically
[I]mplodes

:p ;)

All funnin' aside, I have a Meucci 97-11 that Ryan Theewen ("ratcues", of Muellers) completely rebuilt, and I have to say, after the rebuild, it's one of my favorite cues -- playing-wise and looks-wise.

-Sean



No meucci cues in my case................. I know ryan does great work.

I am glade you have a cue you like. And I honestly hope everyone finds a cue they like allot.

Sorry everyone I got 3 Meucci cues that fell apart in 6 months.
I think I was lied to by meucci cue company.......... I feel I was ripped off.

MMike
 
iam not afan of this move,i own at least 50 cues some 1 of a kinds as well many production cue.i have never had
a meucci fall a part or warp,my every day cue is a meucci s.e.12 .i own 5 meucci cue an a meucci smokeless cig.lol but i will not spend any more money on or with meucci any more,i know my money wont hurt them but f#@k them that is just wrong .....
 
No meucci cues in my case................. I know ryan does great work.

I am glade you have a cue you like. And I honestly hope everyone finds a cue they like allot.

Sorry everyone I got 3 Meucci cues that fell apart in 6 months.
I think I was lied to by meucci cue company.......... I feel I was ripped off.

MMike

How did they fall apart? I have had over 30 meucci's and never had one to fall apart. I have had plastic inlays to come lose, is this what you mean?
 
black dot meucci

Meucci
The shafts started to get rough. it was like each layer popped.
The shaft just felt like it had groves. It just wasnt smooth.
Each layer was debonding or delaminating.

The wrap area is also a big problem, they had what ever was sprayed over the wrap section started to crack, and it felt un level like the irish wrap came un wrapped and was bunching up under the finish. there is not one sq in of the wrap section that the finish is not crack on any of the 3 cues.


there is 2 cues left one has been trashed.

MMike
 
I have a solution to the whole Meucci problem.
First off I think most of the designs are great. Bob should design the cues and have them made in China and let the Chinese decide how to build them.
I know they tried this with the Medici line and they were crap.They probably built them the way Meucci wanted and how did that work out?
And if I sound a little bitter towards Meucci cues I am one of the former owners of his crap. I bought a stunning Meucci in 1986 and with in 6 months the ferrule cracked and the cue warped. And this was when they were supposed to be good.
My 3 year old Chinese made Lucasi is still in perfect condition.
 
iam not afan of this move,i own at least 50 cues some 1 of a kinds as well many production cue.i have never had
a meucci fall a part or warp,my every day cue is a meucci s.e.12 .i own 5 meucci cue an a meucci smokeless cig.lol but i will not spend any more money on or with meucci any more,i know my money wont hurt them but f#@k them that is just wrong .....

what is wrong?


unless Meucci stated earlier that he will no longer make this or make that with this label how can you all be p1ssed about what he is doing?
 
A company has every right to manufacture any series of product at any time.
Making an original series cue now , as long as it is made by the same company is not a copy. It is still an original product.
I used to work for a company, and we were at one time making original product that had been previously made in the late 1978 or so, about 30 years prior. They were still original product, but performed better due to a better understanding of manufacturing and assembly methods.
This did not under value older product in collectors hands, but allowed some older stuff to be used again as spares were still available.
 
Meucci
The shafts started to get rough. it was like each layer popped.
The shaft just felt like it had groves. It just wasnt smooth.
Each layer was debonding or delaminating.

The wrap area is also a big problem, they had what ever was sprayed over the wrap section started to crack, and it felt un level like the irish wrap came un wrapped and was bunching up under the finish. there is not one sq in of the wrap section that the finish is not crack on any of the 3 cues.


there is 2 cues left one has been trashed.

MMike

You must be talking about black dot shafts? If you are, I agree they are junk and I have never seen a straight one. The pre-dot and red-dot shafts are maple.
 
A company has every right to manufacture any series of product at any time.
Making an original series cue now , as long as it is made by the same company is not a copy. It is still an original product.
I used to work for a company, and we were at one time making original product that had been previously made in the late 1978 or so, about 30 years prior. They were still original product, but performed better due to a better understanding of manufacturing and assembly methods.
This did not under value older product in collectors hands, but allowed some older stuff to be used again as spares were still available.

I don't think anyone will argue the fact that they have the right to do what they want. The problem I have is not being able to tell the older originals from the newer ones. Like someone else stated, if they just put a II on the newer ones there would be no problem.
 
makes no difference to me anymore.

You must be talking about black dot shafts? If you are, I agree they are junk and I have never seen a straight one. The pre-dot and red-dot shafts are maple.

I stopped dealing with Meucci cues back in 2007 when those cues fell apart.
I swore back then No meucci cues. I dont buy them and I dont sale them.
This is one of the reasons that I try to stop people from making the same mistakes I did.

Now with the old logo going on the new cues, its like what is the next step
for meucci.

Sorry no more meucci cues for me...........................................................
MMike
 
I don't think anyone is arguing that they can do whatever they want... they obviously did. I think the argument is more an underwritten code or respect given to the customers.

How would you feel if you searched for a pristine airplane cue for years and then finally found one... or you had one in the beginning and kept it in great condition all these years... only for it to be duplicated with 'no' difference some twenty plus years later?

As a business man myself I could never imagine doing this to my customers. If anything it would be a limited edition 'throwback' line or something with some distinguishable mark whether it be the logo or whatever.

Now that I think about it... I'm having a hard time thinking of ANYONE or ANYTHING similar to this. Can you imagine if they started rolling '63 Vettes off the line next week?

Anyways, I should add that it was not this decision alone which has ended my relationship with Meucci although it certainly bothers me. I had a horrible experience with a refinish job with them as did another family member. It wasn't till during the process I found this was a very common problem. I even had a short conversation with Bob himself towards the end of that job. Maybe he had a bad day or something, but I got off the phone feeling like I was yelled at for wondering where my cue was that was promised over and over months prior. To his credit two weeks later it arrived. I have read numerous posts here on this site and others. My local shop owner also told me a horrible experience where he stopped carrying the cues right then and there.

As far as the cues I have... there are 3 originals and 3 scripts... two of which were pre-90. No problems with any one of them... no warping, cracks, etc. I also have a black-dot shaft with no issues so far either. You can tell the difference between the newest one and the others... it just has a not-solid feeling to it or something.
 
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I hate to throw my 2 cents in being a old school Meucci fan but, a teammate of mine on my APA league bought a brand new custom BMC (Bob Meucci Cue) from the factory. He is a old man, retired and he is a sl4, not the best player. He thought Meuccis were the greatest like back in the days. His wife bought him a $1000, supposed to be a one of a kind BMC 2 Christmas' ago. I pleaded with him to get a custom from a cue maker off here but, it's his money and he wanted a BMC. First off, the cue took forever to get to him and when it did, it was a greenish white Gambler hybrid I've seen before with the script righting but his being $1000, he got the BMC logo on it and one shaft. I could feel all the inlays and joints through the finish. About 2 months later the one green long inlay cut another team member playing with it. The inlay was popped out and springy like a diving board. We looked the cue over and 2 more had popped out also, 3 total, one in the forearm and 2 in the butt sleeve. Meucci did take it back and fix it and he was without a cue again for months. I said I would never buy a Muecci unless it was an original and now with this info won't be doing that either.Meucciman, if you think this is a lie, pm me and I'll give you his name to check the facts.

As far as this thread, at least the seller on eBay states they are not original, "ORIGINALS" but, what if the new buyers aren't that honest and buy them to flip to unsuspected buyers? Bob can do what he wants with his company but, I personally think this is wrong. Put a 2 or a C for custom or something in the butt cap bolt area or something.

Good luck Bob Meucci.
 
I don't think anyone will argue the fact that they have the right to do what they want. The problem I have is not being able to tell the older originals from the newer ones. Like someone else stated, if they just put a II on the newer ones there would be no problem.

Looks to me like the designs are different and the logo on the newer ones are certainly shoddy compared to the older ones.




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