No. VA layani tip repair
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Where are you located? I can put you in touch w/ acouple of different guys. Perhaps one of them can contact Theirry and determine if they can do it. You coukd always just mail it to Layani. With enough shipping $ and prior notice to Theirry, you could probably have it bach in a couple of days.
Qstick333 said:
Call CHARLIES PRO SHOP & CUE RPR 2401 N POINT BLVD, Dundalk, MD (410)-288-6990.
I've always really liked his work, and I'd be surprised if there were a tip he couldn't change. His main shop is near Baltimore, but he takes his setup to Fast Eddie's in Alexandria on the 1st and 3rd wednesday of each month:
Charlie's Pro Shop at Fast Eddies, Alexandria Va
Event Location: Fast Eddies in Alexandria Va.
Street: 6220 Richmond Hwy (Rte 1/Fort Belvoir exit)
City, State, Zip: Alexandria Va.
Phone: 703.660.9444
Charlie's Pro Shop is now open at Fast Eddies in Alexandria on the 1st & 3rd Wednesday of each month from 6pm to 10pm.... Their full service shop offers Cues, Cases, Cue Repairs, and Accessories.
Cory
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Fred Agnir
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Qstick333 said:
Really? For a tip?
Fred
The Layani joint is a standard 5/15-18 I believe. The way it is configured with the conical joint though, it does not leave a lot of room to screw the shaft into the mandrel. But it can be done with just a little more care.Qstick333 said:
Cory in DC is correct, Charlie Fleming is the man to see for repairs in the Baltimore area. There are also cuemakers that can do the work; Rick Phillippi in Pasadena, Tim Scruggs in Baltimore, and Mark Bear a little south of you in Fredericksburg. Probably easier for you to go to Mark Bear if you live in Virginia. All of these mentioned are certainly reputable and capable of handling this, and much more!
Yeah, that's what I'm gonna do with my thousand dollar Layani...yeah right, sand it, that's the ticket...by hand...LOLOLOL...ROTFLMAO!!!!!bud green said:What am I missing here? Seems like it would be a hell of a lot easier to just put a new tip on by hand than ship it to someone who puts it on a lathe.
Any reason cutting it with razor and sanding it won't work?
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Fred Agnir
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Qstick333 said:
Oh, I understand now. No, it's not correct. The Layani cue needs a special "driver" if you're going to do other shaft work because the joint is special. But to retip it, there's nothing special needed. Any competent tip person can do it.
Fred
I wasn't suggesting grinding down the shaft with 200 grade sandpaper or anything. We're talking about putting on a tip.
Deno Andrews, same guy with the carom forum section, put out a tape (its an old one) where he shows you how to replace a tip by hand. After putting the tip on, he cut the excess off with a razor blade and then carefully sands down the rest of the tip to be flush with the ferrule with folded pieces of fine sandpaper. Might take a few minutes, but so what? Better than waiting for the shaft to come back in the mail.
Is sanding down the tip and ferrule with 600 grade or finer that big a deal? I thought that is how people cleaned up (or removed scratches on) their ferrules on a lathe, anyway. The lathe just makes the process a lot faster.
I'm definitely not an expert, though.
Is there a better method for doing this if someone doesn't have a special tip cutter like a Willard classic trimmer ($400) ?
Deno Andrews, same guy with the carom forum section, put out a tape (its an old one) where he shows you how to replace a tip by hand. After putting the tip on, he cut the excess off with a razor blade and then carefully sands down the rest of the tip to be flush with the ferrule with folded pieces of fine sandpaper. Might take a few minutes, but so what? Better than waiting for the shaft to come back in the mail.
Is sanding down the tip and ferrule with 600 grade or finer that big a deal? I thought that is how people cleaned up (or removed scratches on) their ferrules on a lathe, anyway. The lathe just makes the process a lot faster.
I'm definitely not an expert, though.
Is there a better method for doing this if someone doesn't have a special tip cutter like a Willard classic trimmer ($400) ?
Thierry is in Germany now and he will not be back for a month. But I think you can get a decent job done by any of the guys Ted Harris has recommended. Once you have seen how a reputable cuemaker with a lathe has done it, you will understand. It is not such a big deal, dont worry.
Good Luck.
Richard
Good Luck.
Richard
Purdman
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I cna do it!
I am in Leesburg, VA. I have been repairing cues for 6 years now. I have done the Planet Pool tournaments in Sterling, VA. I had a small repair business at First Break Cafe. I have only put on about 700 tips. I have a Hightower repair lathe. You want it now, PM me.
Don
I am in Leesburg, VA. I have been repairing cues for 6 years now. I have done the Planet Pool tournaments in Sterling, VA. I had a small repair business at First Break Cafe. I have only put on about 700 tips. I have a Hightower repair lathe. You want it now, PM me.
Don
Get back to us when you have done 723.. Just kidding! Don has done tips for me and I can't say I have noticed better work by anyone else. And I have had LOTSA tipsDonald A. Purdy said:
I have had my Layani tip done twice and never had a problem with taking it to either of my usual maintenance guys here in Arizona.
Mike
Mike
If you are worried about getting a good tip because you really care about your cue, you can stay there watching the process during the whole time.
I am sure any of the guys recommended here will be able to give you a great job. I know why you feel nervous. Years ago I felt the same way when I had my first "expensive" cue, which was a Pechauer by the way, and I finally needed to change the tip.
I was very nervous that may be the guy would sand down the shaft or make the ferrule shorter or just did a bad job or whatever. I stayed there and he understood.
Having said that, you do not want to get an inexperienced/incompetent guy to change yout tip.
I think Don will give you a great job, so are all the other professionals recommended on this thread.
Let us know how it turns out.
Good luck.
Richard
I am sure any of the guys recommended here will be able to give you a great job. I know why you feel nervous. Years ago I felt the same way when I had my first "expensive" cue, which was a Pechauer by the way, and I finally needed to change the tip.
I was very nervous that may be the guy would sand down the shaft or make the ferrule shorter or just did a bad job or whatever. I stayed there and he understood. Having said that, you do not want to get an inexperienced/incompetent guy to change yout tip.
I think Don will give you a great job, so are all the other professionals recommended on this thread.
Let us know how it turns out.
Good luck.
Richard
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You don't need any special tooling to retip a Layani. Any decent cue repair person has a lathe. The part of the lathe that grabs the cue is called the 'chuck.' It is basically a vice but with three surfaces. The rest of the shaft goes through the lathe and the back of the shaft is secured inside that hole by a collet, which is a piece of delrin like a hockey puck but with a hole in the middle for the shaft to go through. Another collet will probably be used just behind the ferrule for the chuck to bite into so that no marks are left on the shaft.Qstick333 said:
What you must be thinking of is a jig for the shaft to attach to a sanding lathe. Sanding lathes don't typically have a chuck that will grab something. Instead, a screw (or female) will be attached to the spindle, and you can attach the shaft in that manner. This is only done when you need to have access to the whole shaft. Regardless, any competent cue maker can make a jig that will work for any type of cue joint. But for only a tip, don't worry about it.
As far as doing the tip by hand, it is possible (and not difficult) and I did it for over ten years. However, if you are using a layered tip don't even try it. As bud mentioned I did make a home-made tape once describing the method (and a bunch of other stupid stuff). However, that tape was done before there was the explosion of cue makers in this country, and also before all the great tip replacement devices ubiquitous in the marketplace today. Going to a reputable cue maker or repair person is your best bet though. Use a layered tip and never ever sand it and it will last for a very long time.
Deno Andrews
I can replace tips on any shaft.
I don't drive from the collar;no need for the pin either.
Chuck up on the sleeved ferrule, replace tip.
I don't drive from the collar;no need for the pin either.
Chuck up on the sleeved ferrule, replace tip.
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