NOTICE TO: ABP, American Billiard Professionals. from the Maxim Billiards Tour

[geno]

This was just recently posted to the FB account of the tour.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Maxim-Billiards-Classic-Tours/181991678498009

NOTICE TO: ABP, American Billiard Professionals. As of July 31st all Professional Player Members of the ABP will be barred from participation in any of our Amateur events on the Maxim Billiards Amateur Tour. The simple fact is that if you think and you state you are a Professional Pool/Billiard Player we will respect your decision to be known as a Pro.

This ruling will not affect any supports or other membership categories of the ABP just the Professional Player Members as they have listed here: http://www.azbilliards.com/2000storya.php?storynum=8882 or on the ABP website. If your names appers on any one of these lists we suggest you make a decision as to your eligibility and contact the Maxim Billiards Tour and or the ABP to confirm or retract your name from the list we have been given. All ABP Professional Player Members will still be eligible to play in our Open events.

 

[12ozCurl]

This was just recently posted to the FB account of the tour.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Maxim-Billiards-Classic-Tours/181991678498009

NOTICE TO: ABP, American Billiard Professionals. As of July 31st all Professional Player Members of the ABP will be barred from participation in any of our Amateur events on the Maxim Billiards Amateur Tour. The simple fact is that if you think and you state you are a Professional Pool/Billiard Player we will respect your decision to be known as a Pro.

This ruling will not affect any supports or other membership categories of the ABP just the Professional Player Members as they have listed here: http://www.azbilliards.com/2000storya.php?storynum=8882 or on the ABP website. If your names appers on any one of these lists we suggest you make a decision as to your eligibility and contact the Maxim Billiards Tour and or the ABP to confirm or retract your name from the list we have been given. All ABP Professional Player Members will still be eligible to play in our Open events.

I'm gonna buy my tour card tomorrow. BRAVO Maxim!

 

[geno]

Here is the official Press Release from an email.

For Immediate Release
July 8th, 2011
Contact: Mike Janis


NOTICE TO: ABP, American Billiard Professionals. As of July 31st all Professional Player Members of the ABP will be barred from participation in any of our Amateur events on the MaximBilliards.com Amateur Tour. The simple fact is that if you think and you state you are a Professional Pool/Billiard Player we will respect your decision to be known as a Pro.

This ruling will not affect any supports or other membership categories of the ABP just the Professional Player Members as they have listed here: http://www.azbilliards.com/2000storya.php?storynum=8882 or on the ABP website. If your names appears on any one of these lists we suggest you make a decision as to your eligibility and contact the MaximBilliards.com Tour by email at maximtour@yahoo.com and or the ABP by email at: abppropool@gmail.com to confirm or retract your name from the lists. All ABP Professional Player Members will still be eligible to play in our Open events.

About the MaximBilliards.com Classic Tours:
The Maxim Billiards Tour was founded in 1994 as an Ohio based tour. Over the years it has grown significantly to include many regions of the US. Since it's inception it has been known as the tours current title sponsors names; The Ohio State 9-Ball Tour, The Huebler Cues 9-Ball Tours, the Viking Cue 9-Ball Tours and The Ozone Billiards Classic Tour. It is currently the longest running Open regional billiards tour in the USA. The Maxim Tours consist of four separate tours: The MaximBilliards.com Open, Amateur Only, Beginning Amateur and the MaximBilliards.com - Olhausen Billiards Classic 9-Ball Tours. Combined, the tours offer approximately 141 tournament events each tour season for players from beginning to professionals to compete in. Player and business associate members are offered many outstanding benefits that separate the Maxim Tours from any other tour in the USA. These benefits include: Health-care insurance, Hotel Discounts, Sponsor Product Discounts, Reduced entry fees for Ladies and Junior players, Discounts to Military Personnel, Senior Citizens and Pool League Players.

The MaximBilliards.com Tours offers a unique way of supporting room owners that host the events. The 1st and most notable difference is that all tournament rates to the room owners are discounted based on current advertising at www,maximbilliards.com as a portion of all banner ad sales is distributed to the tour to help keep costs down to the room owners. The 2nd most notable is room owners hosting the events get more product sponsorship than any other tour in the USA offers which leads to over 1/2 of the total cost of events for the host room owners and if the host location participate in the Simonis Cloth purchase discount program offered from the MaximBilliards.com Classic Tours the event can become virtually free of charge to room owners.

Room Owners are encouraged to contact the MaximBilliards.com Tour by email at maximtour@yahoo.com or by phone at 1-800-200-POOL to learn more about hosting the events.

 

[DogsPlayingPool]

Speed shift into the next gear, Geno. Didn't even use the clutch.

 

[MahnaMahna]

Very nice, hope they lose out on other oportunities due to this BS.

 

[duker]

This was just recently posted to the FB account of the tour.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Maxim-Billiards-Classic-Tours/181991678498009

NOTICE TO: ABP, American Billiard Professionals. As of July 31st all Professional Player Members of the ABP will be barred from participation in any of our Amateur events on the Maxim Billiards Amateur Tour. The simple fact is that if you think and you state you are a Professional Pool/Billiard Player we will respect your decision to be known as a Pro.

This ruling will not affect any supports or other membership categories of the ABP just the Professional Player Members as they have listed here: http://www.azbilliards.com/2000storya.php?storynum=8882 or on the ABP website. If your names appers on any one of these lists we suggest you make a decision as to your eligibility and contact the Maxim Billiards Tour and or the ABP to confirm or retract your name from the list we have been given. All ABP Professional Player Members will still be eligible to play in our Open events.

BRAVO...BRAVO...BRAVO...Delighted to see this.....see if they still walk on water...

 

[mmwtdh]

Good idea........

 

[justnum]

Buying a domain name

Were the guys not interested in buying a domain name? At least they got the 800 hundred line. If you call the 800 number it costs them money each time you call it. Posting something like that is like asking for a huge phone bill or a full email box.

I don't know how many places still have pay phones the kind you put quarters in like at the airport and train station or bus depot or taxi station, but if you dial the 800 number it bills directly to the owner of the 800 line.

Here is the official Press Release from an email.

This ruling will not affect any supports or other membership categories of the ABP just the Professional Player Members as they have listed here: http://www.azbilliards.com/2000storya.php?storynum=8882 or on the ABP website. If your names appears on any one of these lists we suggest you make a decision as to your eligibility and contact the MaximBilliards.com Tour by email at maximtour@yahoo.com and or the ABP by email at: abppropool@gmail.com to confirm or retract your name from the lists.

Room Owners are encouraged to contact the MaximBilliards.com Tour by email at maximtour@yahoo.com or by phone at 1-800-200-POOL to learn more about hosting the events.

 

[geno]

HUH ???

http://mxmbilliards.com/tour/

I am not sure what 800# you are talking about but my small biz 800 # only bills me 4cents per minute.

Were the guys not interested in buying a domain name? At least they got the 800 hundred line. If you call the 800 number it costs them money each time you call it. Posting something like that is like asking for a huge phone bill or a full email box.

I don't know how many places still have pay phones the kind you put quarters in like at the airport and train station or bus depot or taxi station, but if you dial the 800 number it bills directly to the owner of the 800 line.

 

[justnum]

HUH ???

http://mxmbilliards.com/tour/

I am not sure what 800# you are talking about but my small biz 800 # only bills me 4cents per minute.

How many fans and players would be unhappy with a lockout? Sometimes people unemployed or in school have time to automate a dialing system, some grannies I know would write massive numbers of letters, to fill up their mailbox and force them to sort through mail to find the important stuff.

You haven't been apart of an upset mob before have you.

 

[geno]

How many fans and players would be unhappy with a lockout? Sometimes people unemployed or in school have time to automate a dialing system, some grannies I know would write massive numbers of letters, to fill up their mailbox and force them to sort through mail to find the important stuff.

You haven't been apart of an upset mob before have you.

So far you seem to be the only upset mob member. LOL

 

[ForumGhost516]

I hate to play devil's advocate here but shouldn't these pros have been locked out of playing in an amateur event anyway?

I mean if you go by their list of players that they themselves put out how can you let any of those people in an amateur event?

 

[zerowins]

I hate to play devil's advocate here but shouldn't these pros have been locked out of playing in an amateur event anyway?

I mean if you go by their list of players that they themselves put out how can you let any of those people in an amateur event?

Not everyone on that list has been considered a pro. But yes, most of them are banned and have been.

 

[fasteddienc]

I hate to play devil's advocate here but shouldn't these pros have been locked out of playing in an amateur event anyway?

I mean if you go by their list of players that they themselves put out how can you let any of those people in an amateur event?

Most of them couldn't play anyway.....it's just a few on the list who are borderline and complain when they can't play the amateur events. I will not name names but I see at least 3 who have played amateur events. This is giving those players a choice as to whether they want to be considered amateur or professional as they can't have it both ways I suppose.

Imagine running an amateur tour where certain players want to be considered amateur yet they are exercising their voice as an American Billiard Professional? I would think I would want to clarify this if I was a tour director before it became an issue with other players who know of their involvement in standing in with a association of professionals.

 

[sde]

Most of them couldn't play anyway.....it's just a few on the list who are borderline and complain when they can't play the amateur events. I will not name names but I see at least 3 who have played amateur events. This is giving those players a choice as to whether they want to be considered amateur or professional as they can't have it both ways I suppose.

Imagine running an amateur tour where certain players want to be considered amateur yet they are exercising their voice as an American Billiard Professional? I would think I would want to clarify this if I was a tour director before it became an issue with other players who know of their involvement in standing in with a association of professionals.

All very good points.

In the email from Maxim Billiards it states, "This ruling will not affect any supports or other membership categories of the ABP just the Professional Player Members as they have listed here" so it would be an easy fix, for the ABP, to create a new category for advanced amateurs who wish to join the boycott.

 

[geno]

Very well put Eddie.

BTW, for those not familiar with the tour here is a link to the Amateur Qualifications/Disqualifications the tour has published. http://mxmbilliards.com//tour/aarules.htm

The tour also has a BEGINNING AMATEUR division and here is the link for those Quals/DisQuals http://mxmbilliards.com//tour/bgarules.htm

The Tour also has an OPEN division and Anyone can play in that division regardless of being a Professional or an Amateur.

Most of them couldn't play anyway.....it's just a few on the list who are borderline and complain when they can't play the amateur events. I will not name names but I see at least 3 who have played amateur events. This is giving those players a choice as to whether they want to be considered amateur or professional as they can't have it both ways I suppose.

Imagine running an amateur tour where certain players want to be considered amateur yet they are exercising their voice as an American Billiard Professional? I would think I would want to clarify this if I was a tour director before it became an issue with other players who know of their involvement in standing in with a association of professionals.

 

[stitch]

no fear

i think all tournaments should be open. how am i going to be as good as the best if i cant play them? hell, id rather get beat by johny archer than joe smuck, and maybe ill learn a thing or 2. plus i will get the experience of playing the best players in a tournament setting. JMO.......

 

[fasteddienc]

i think all tournaments should be open. how am i going to be as good as the best if i cant play them? hell, id rather get beat by johny archer than joe smuck, and maybe ill learn a thing or 2. plus i will get the experience of playing the best players in a tournament setting. JMO.......

I agree totally Stitch....but unfortunately we as Americans have become lazy and want the walk before we crawl. No one wants to earn anything, they want it given to them. League players and nightly tourneys are all handicapped so the weaker and newbies have a chance to "win".

It appears that losing discourages people these days and they just quit. Once upon a time people believed that "winners never quit, and quitters never win". People actually practiced and played anyone and everyone to get better. Now it is "whiners never quit, and quitters always whine"<-----(by the way that is original and I want credit)....People are lazy, money is tight, and if they don't have a chance they don't play. Sad but true.

 

[manwon]

This was just recently posted to the FB account of the tour.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Maxim-Billiards-Classic-Tours/181991678498009

NOTICE TO: ABP, American Billiard Professionals. As of July 31st all Professional Player Members of the ABP will be barred from participation in any of our Amateur events on the Maxim Billiards Amateur Tour. The simple fact is that if you think and you state you are a Professional Pool/Billiard Player we will respect your decision to be known as a Pro.

This ruling will not affect any supports or other membership categories of the ABP just the Professional Player Members as they have listed here: http://www.azbilliards.com/2000storya.php?storynum=8882 or on the ABP website. If your names appers on any one of these lists we suggest you make a decision as to your eligibility and contact the Maxim Billiards Tour and or the ABP to confirm or retract your name from the list we have been given. All ABP Professional Player Members will still be eligible to play in our Open events.

I applaud you for taking the time to post this here, I am certain that making this kind of decision was not easy, but the easy path or I should say the path of least resistance is far to often the path weak leaders and their pathetic followers choose.

It makes me happy to see that our sport still has people of substance and integrity. I only wish that other Leaders throughout our sport make the right decision like you have done and follow your lead. It would be nice to see organizations like the APA, BCA, TAP and all the others do something similar. I know for a fact that the most important people involved here will and are taking notice and these people are the Fan's. You know all of us little people who pay our money to support all of these organizations, and these are the very people who are getting screwed by all the Political non-sense the weak leaders of some of these organizations have forgotten about.

On the plus side at least there are lists of those who we the little people can boycott, by not paying them for instruction, by not buying products that are endorsed by them, and by not filling the seats at their exhibitions.

Thanks again for standing up, and I hope enough of the little people like myself who seem to be over looked voice their opinions like I have done here, and then back up their words as I plan to do so that these pre-Madonnas will take notice. This can hurt them more than they know, words don't mean shit, but when they get hit in their pockets they will pay attention and very very quickly. What you have done is a great start I am begging all the others above to support and follow your lead.

Very Respectfully

Just a no body who spends money and loves pool!!!!!!!:smile:

 

[duckie]

i think all tournaments should be open. how am i going to be as good as the best if i cant play them? hell, id rather get beat by johny archer than joe smuck, and maybe ill learn a thing or 2. plus i will get the experience of playing the best players in a tournament setting. JMO.......

Does it really matter who you lose too? A loss is a loss.

It is also sad to think that you can't learn from anyone. If Joe Smuck beats you, there is a reason and you better figure what that reason was same as being beat by a top pro.

If Joe Smuck beats you , you just played a better player, duh.