Noticed the following on E-bay

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Personally never bought anything on E-bay, but like to window shop the site. This looks interesting, the Hoppie and I wonder if it has any collectors Value

#1 OLD WILLIE HOPPE POOL PROFESSIONAL BILLIARDS CUE & CASE :D


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21212&item=7104871580&rd=1


Also noticed this one Lambros, and it appear way too High an asking price.

#2 NEW LAMBROS 2003 Ultra-Joint Pool Cue with 2 shafts :mad:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21212&item=7104427288&rd=1

I would be interested oin some collectors, and those in the know opinions. ;)
 
That Lambros is awesome, I am sure, but it does nothing for me...That Hoppe is incredible (I think!).

I hope someone more educated on matters of this kiind will elaborate on it. I've never seen one with signed shafts. I think it'll sell for $1,500+.

-piga
 
But according to one web site I found, Willie Hoppe's name was William F. Hoppe, not William J. Anyone have any other info on this?
 
ragbug74 said:
But according to one web site I found, Willie Hoppe's name was William F. Hoppe, not William J. Anyone have any other info on this?
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Biography.com indicates that Willie Hoppe's middle name was Frederick.
 
holy crap!!!! Thats a treasure, I wonder how much this guy paid for it. I go to countless estate auctions and yard sales looking for these kind of things. If its authentic... priceless
 
sjm said:
Biography.com indicates that Willie Hoppe's middle name was Frederick.
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Ouch..Doesn't it look like the signature held up awfully good? Still it's an interesting cue. I wish there were close ups of the ring and ferules.
 
Never heard of any William J. Hoppe as a pro player, only William F. Hoppe, who was inducted in hall of fame in 1966 two years before Willie Mosconi. Most likely it was the name of the cue maker.
 
it looks kinda like a rambo cue to me and he wrote the owners' names in that manner. it all seems to smell bad to me.
 
Wow! This is getting interesting- Did Hoppe spell his name wrong?! Is it a titelist signed by his Dad/ Son?! Are we reading it wrong?

Othere than the name issue, it looks right re: age, joint, veneers.

There are some educated cue professors here, speak up!!

-pige
 
azbicyclis85376 said:
Personally never bought anything on E-bay, but like to window shop the site. This looks interesting, the Hoppie and I wonder if it has any collectors Value

#1 OLD WILLIE HOPPE POOL PROFESSIONAL BILLIARDS CUE & CASE :D
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I've been with this one since the first listing. I bid on it orginally then retracted. It is obviously an old brunswick with the appearance of a Rambow.

A real Rambow that belonged to Willie Hoppe would be worth a ton, maybe $20,000 or more. I checked the script writing against other photo's I have of Rambo's. The writing looks very close, except the "W" curls the wrong direction at the beginning.

Then another e-bay member informed me that the middle initial was wrong. I believe the seller suspects it is a fake, but refuses to acknowledge it. The seller has been informed of these discrepancies.

This cue was probably faked to look like a Rambo a long time ago.

Chris
 
The cue sold for over $2,000. I thought it was a fraud, and I contacted the buyer about it. He did some detective work and guess what, it's most likely real!

The buyer tracked down the old man who originally bought it and sold it - in a nursing home. The story is accurate. The old man knew Rambow and knew a man who worked for him. The man who worked for him was an expert in calligraphy and wrote that particlar inscription. He gave the buyer an original old article about this. This cue belonged to Willie Hoppe and was made by Rambow. It is probably worth $10,000 - $20,000.

The lettering discrepancy. In this particular style, the F and J are identical. It was an F after all!

Thje next step is to get the cue authenticated as a Rambow. If it is then it was Hoppe's.

Amazing!

Chris
 
larrynj1 said:
the calligraphy part of the story sounds like bullshit to me.
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Maybe the collector who bought the cue is embellishing so he can dump it!

It's an amazing story really. It would be like finding Babe Ruth's long lost favorite bat or Michael Jordan's original unbleached jock strap.

Chris
 
I think I know the guy that bought the cue... I'll have to contact him and see what the story is...
 
dooziexx said:
I think I know the guy that bought the cue... I'll have to contact him and see what the story is...
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He's a very good guy, really. His name is Bill and he deals in high-end cues. Very interesting story.

Chris
 
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