NOW! Efren Reyes vs One-Pocket Rich!

Still going and still battling it out!
Rich is Hill/Hill after in the 3rd set taking 9-6 now!
Rich to break the balls. Measle ball has been replaced by the red circle. Railbirds saying that Efren has not adjusted to it.

PPV Still for sale!
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Just my opinion, but I didn't enjoy that camera angle on that table. Sorry, not for PPV.

More should have been done to insure the table Santos played on was left open and available for PPV. That was your standard free stream view. And honestly, not even as good a view as most free stream views.

You plugged the pool room enough for them to allow you some decision making power.
 
3andstop said:
Just my opinion, but I didn't enjoy that camera angle on that table. Sorry, not for PPV.

More should have been done to insure the table Santos played on was left open and available for PPV. That was your standard free stream view. And honestly, not even as good a view as most free stream views.

You plugged the pool room enough for them to allow you some decision making power.
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Efren plays on any table he wants and it's out of my control. When players gamble in pool and people want to change tables I have to respect that.

Generally, I do have the decision making power, but we are talking about a man who walks the beat of a different drum. $8 is not much to pay to see the greatest player in the world. I'm sorry you feel this way about the camera angle. I streamed the same angle with Efren playing Bobby Emmons - 500 people watched it for free and I have people offering me $40 & $50 to see the matches on DVD.

I will refund you your $8 if you really need it.
 
POVPOOL said:
Efren plays on any table he wants and it's out of my control. When players gamble in pool and people want to change tables I have to respect that.

Generally, I do have the decision making power, but we are talking about a man who walks the beat of a different drum. $8 is not much to pay to see the greatest player in the world. I'm sorry you feel this way about the camera angle. I streamed the same angle with Efren playing Bobby Emmons - 500 people watched it for free and I have people offering me $40 & $50 to see the matches on DVD.

I will refund you your $8 if you really need it.
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No, hang on to it maybe save up for a few more cameras.

Listen, personally I don't care who is playing, I watch because I enjoy 1pkt. This isnt like going to the movies and sitting on the far right edge of the isle.

Its a senseless waste not having the camera square to the table. You can't see angles, you can't see what goes, you can't examine the layout.

What i said stands, I didn't enjoy or even care to view from that angle. I assumed that a PPV stream would have dedicated camera for tables.

Now you billed sunday as 9 ball, you did have great angles set up to view that. IMO, stream the table you're set up to stream. It would be better than twist the camera to see Efren doing something you couldn't see.
 
3andstop said:
No, hang on to it maybe save up for a few more cameras.

Listen, personally I don't care who is playing, I watch because I enjoy 1pkt. This isnt like going to the movies and sitting on the far right edge of the isle.

Its a senseless waste not having the camera square to the table. You can't see angles, you can't see what goes, you can't examine the layout.

What i said stands, I didn't enjoy or even care to view from that angle. I assumed that a PPV stream would have dedicated camera for tables.

Now you billed sunday as 9 ball, you did have great angles set up to view that. IMO, stream the table you're set up to stream. It would be better than twist the camera to see Efren doing something you couldn't see.
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Thanks for the advice and the $8. I bought a Subway sandwich, an apple fritter and burped loudly in the car on the ride back home.
 
POVPOOL said:
Thanks for the advice and the $8. I bought a Subway sandwich, an apple fritter and burped loudly in the car on the ride back home.
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I don't think wise remarks are in the best interest of providing PPV pool. Constructive criticism provides perspectives of the viewers to you the vendor, and perhaps if you considered them the quality would improve.

Now consider for a moment some of your patrons were really in the mood to watch your advertised 9 ball tournament, isn't it a bit unfair to turn the cameras away from that event after promoting it and charging for it?

Regardless, the voicing of my opinion on this can only be helpful to better streams. I wasn't being a wise guy, I was merely saying what's the sense of watching 1 pocket if you can't really see and dissect the table layout. If it is just to say you can see Efren, then I suppose you make those patrons happy.

Just because a couple of groupies would die to watch Efren even if you put a camera in the crapper doesn't mean twisting the camera offers any insight to the moves in the game they were playing.

BTW, 8 bucks for a subway sandwich and an apple fritter seems a bit high. Did they have the prices kinda twisted and hidden from your view when you paid?

Sorry, couldn't resist. Anyway, most businesses want to hear what the patrons feel about their product. I can see you're not one of them. On a brighter note, as I said, the camera over the 9 ball tournament table was excellent.
 
3andstop said:
I don't think wise remarks are in the best interest of providing PPV pool. Constructive criticism provides perspectives of the viewers to you the vendor, and perhaps if you considered them the quality would improve.

Now consider for a moment some of your patrons were really in the mood to watch your advertised 9 ball tournament, isn't it a bit unfair to turn the cameras away from that event after promoting it and charging for it?

Regardless, the voicing of my opinion on this can only be helpful to better streams. I wasn't being a wise guy, I was merely saying what's the sense of watching 1 pocket if you can't really see and dissect the table layout. If it is just to say you can see Efren, then I suppose you make those patrons happy.

Just because a couple of groupies would die to watch Efren even if you put a camera in the crapper doesn't mean twisting the camera offers any insight to the moves in the game they were playing.

BTW, 8 bucks for a subway sandwich and an apple fritter seems a bit high. Did they have the prices kinda twisted and hidden from your view when you paid?

Sorry, couldn't resist. Anyway, most businesses want to hear what the patrons feel about their product. I can see you're not one of them. On a brighter note, as I said, the camera over the 9 ball tournament table was excellent.
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Okay, you got me!
I had a few nickels left over that I that I decided to throw at a seagull, who was pecking at a homeless man's sandwich on the sidewalk while he was sleeping in the street.

...and I farted.
 
Very Well Said

3andstop said:
I don't think wise remarks are in the best interest of providing PPV pool. Constructive criticism provides perspectives of the viewers to you the vendor, and perhaps if you considered them the quality would improve.

Now consider for a moment some of your patrons were really in the mood to watch your advertised 9 ball tournament, isn't it a bit unfair to turn the cameras away from that event after promoting it and charging for it?

Regardless, the voicing of my opinion on this can only be helpful to better streams. I wasn't being a wise guy, I was merely saying what's the sense of watching 1 pocket if you can't really see and dissect the table layout. If it is just to say you can see Efren, then I suppose you make those patrons happy.

Just because a couple of groupies would die to watch Efren even if you put a camera in the crapper doesn't mean twisting the camera offers any insight to the moves in the game they were playing.

BTW, 8 bucks for a subway sandwich and an apple fritter seems a bit high. Did they have the prices kinda twisted and hidden from your view when you paid?

Sorry, couldn't resist. Anyway, most businesses want to hear what the patrons feel about their product. I can see you're not one of them. On a brighter note, as I said, the camera over the 9 ball tournament table was excellent.
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Daniel..

Don't get to big headed for your surroundings. I do appreciate your streams and I hope that you can listen to the people and make your product even better.

Don
 
We all want what we want...but sometimes settle based on reality.

I would have liked a different camera angle too.

It was my understanding that the action was impromptu. I believe it was stated on the stream that the 1P was going to take place on the 'stream table' as soon as a 'Santos' match concluded.

Apparently, the players decided to play on table 7, electing not to wait for table 1 to open up. Saw Daniel on ladder repositioning one of the stream cameras to allow the slanted angle side view of the 1P table, while the Santos 9b was still being played.

I don't think the 1P match was 'scheduled', rather..hoped for..with the prospect of Efren rolling in to Hardtimes.

I know Daniel wanted to stream whatever Efren action occurred, and tried to arrange that they play on the stream table...but..they played on another table.

Kind of between a rock and a hard place...don't stream the 1P with Efren, and a mighty strong player in Rich, or due to the contestants' choice of a different table...make do, and stream the match from a less than ideal view.

Turns out the stream table became available after they started playing on table 7, but there didn't seem to be any player interest in moving the match, once started. Seems reasonable from the player perspective.

Daniel tried to give us what we want....Great 1P on the stream table..but pool room reality..gave us what we got.

As an unabashed Efren fan...thanks Daniel.

As JCIN says...put the table in the parking lot, if that is where Efren wants to play...but that would be known in advance, and proper camera positions could be arranged.

Kind of like being there...having to watch from 40 feet away...I would still watch.

Daniel.....get some sleep. And consider no onions or pickles on the sub.:wink:
 
Hope my measly $8 helped. Maybe you were able to get a drink as well. Enjoyed the ppv and the free stream. Ty Daniel for all you do.:thumbup:
 
General Admission would cost $8 (excluding beer)

$8 is only worth general admission. You never know what kinda seat you'll get with general admission. Heck, with my luck, I would've got stuck beside Daniel (while he burped and farted all night)!!!:embarrassed2:

As a railbird, I've never had a good seat to see the whole layout of table for 1-hole. Of course, I would always take seeing a match in person with a limited view, rather than watching it on a stream.
 
Poolshootindon said:
Daniel..

Don't get to big headed for your surroundings. I do appreciate your streams and I hope that you can listen to the people and make your product even better.

Don
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Hey, I'm sorry to anyone who thinks that this is the case. I appreciate your suggestions and help, but when it's in the form of a complaint that I am somehow trying to rip off the viewer or making bad directorial decisions, I kinda rubs me the wrong way.

Don't think for a second that I'm not out there, busting my ass to try to get a shot of these guys! It was totally impromptu. I had about 12 hours notice, with no idea what Efren had in mind beforehand.

And- Yes, Put the table in the parking lot, if Effy wants to play there he will, and you can bet your ass there's always going to be somebody who will complain that a Prius parked in the picture doesn't match the cloth on the table.

"It's Getting Real in the Whole Food's Parking Lot!"
 
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