Now What Is Your State Of Mind??

8-ball bernie

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this question is mainly for the IPT players, since we are starting to get paid,kevin put out a 7 page letter,and we are supposed to get paid in full,what is your state of mind? hopeful,doubtful,netural? what? answer please colin,linda,tammi,robin,etc.
i'll start,hopeful,but cautious.
 
Icode12 said:
IPT Members will be paid in full. Not hopeful, doubtful, or neutral, but confident.
Spoken like a true IPT employee... the IPT is your employer, are they not? Why else would you send harassing emails to a forum member that has been outspoken about the IPT?
 
Icode12 said:
IPT Members will be paid in full. Not hopeful, doubtful, or neutral, but confident.

And you feel this way why?

I can understand hopeful. Being confident means you are basing your thinking on some particular supporting evidence. Just curious what that mightbe. What has the ipt done in the past or presently, to warrant such consideration from you?

Please enlighten me.

rg
 
Business losses due to a special condition caused businesses new logistical problems. Hotels, catering halls, and other event venues were shut down due to airport tightenings.

Result weddings, parties and conventions were unable to use their reserved facilties. Few to no refunds were given. People lost their money.

Most common option made available was store credit.


AZ readers seem to have a little more insight as to open options. Someone playings devils advocate tastefully would help.
 
NYC cue dude said:
And you feel this way why?

I can understand hopeful. Being confident means you are basing your thinking on some particular supporting evidence. Just curious what that mightbe. What has the ipt done in the past or presently, to warrant such consideration from you?

Please enlighten me.

rg

He is not worth responding to, he's just an IPT operative. Look here and you will see what I mean. Read some of the reviews.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/cu.../002-7518522-6564027?ie=UTF8&n=283155&s=books


At one time that book was one star but they have systematically driven up the stars with fake reviews. You notice there seems to be little in-between. Either real reviews with one star or fake reviews with five stars to dilute the average upward. Kevin only knows how to do what he does so they will come on here with these silly fake posters like they are fooling someone. It is really laughable

When I say fake reviews referring to the Amazon site, it is pretty obvious. They never just say they liked the book or found it interesting. They do a full blown sales pitch for the book giving it five stars. If someone just glanced at the number of stars they would think the book was of some value instead of worthless trash.

Kevin doesn't know the meaning of honesty but he found a little smarter audience here then he is used to, but that won't stop him from trying to plant fake posters. Read that guys other post where he warns the players against talking to a lawyer. It does show Kevin does have some concern and is paying attention to what is being said.

I forgot to add this. I don't want someone to think I am guessing when I say things on here. Regarding the Amazon book reviews you can click next to the name of the reviewer where it says "see all my reviews" and see their other reviews. What you will find with the five star reviews for Kevin's book will be, they have given anywhere from 3 or 4 to like a dozen five star reviews for the Kevin's book as well as for other books Kevin sells.

There are never any reviews for any other books. This is so easy to check and see what they are doing you would think they would not do it, but they don't care because most people won't check anyway. You have to wonder why Amazon lets this go on.
 
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macguy,

i read his other post, and of course i knew he was a shill. I was interested in hearing his reasoning, regardless of how flawed it would be.

rg
 
QUOTE=macguy "He is not worth responding to, he's just an IPT operative. Look here and you will see what I mean. Read some of the reviews.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/cu.../002-7518522-6564027?ie=UTF8&n=283155&s=books..."


This was the first review I saw.

"Cured!, November 18, 2006
A Kid's Review
I used to have leukemia, diabetes, ADHD, dyslexia, and restless leg syndrome. After reading the book I was naturally cured!

The key was to stop mixing aspartame with my scrambled eggs every morning, just like Kevin told me to."

I needed a good laugh this morning.

--Chili
 
NYC cue dude said:
macguy,

i read his other post, and of course i knew he was a shill. I was interested in hearing his reasoning, regardless of how flawed it would be.

rg
Interesting thing about the book, no matter what they do it hasn't cracked the top 150 since like March. The public is finally wising up to the guy. I don't know about the rest of Kevin's enterprises, but his biggest cash cow is now on life support. He is now resorting to running ancient informercials for the wrinkle cream. I say ancient because Kevin looks like he is at least 10 years younger in the ads being run. They haven't even spent, or can't afford to spend the money for more updated ads. I find this the most interesting since producing slick ads it his specialty. The stuff they are running even look dated and could be greatly improved today. Everything points to no money.

The book ads are almost non existent anymore showing it isn't selling at all. I don't know about his personal holdings, but with his reputed spending habits, I would not be surprised if he isn't in a desperate cash crunch and no real solutions on the horizon. Desperate men do desperate things and this could explain his 180 degree turn with the IPT from benefactor to hiding under a rock.
 
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macguy said:
Interesting thing about the book, no matter what they do it hasn't cracked the top 150 since like March. The public is finally wising up to the guy. I don't know about the rest of Kevin's enterprises, but his biggest cash cow is now on life support. He is now resorting to running ancient informercials for the wrinkle cream. I say ancient because Kevin looks like he is at least 10 years younger in the ads being run. They haven't even spent, or can't afford to spend the money for more updated ads. I find this the most interesting since producing slick ads it his specialty. The stuff they are running even look dated and could be greatly improved today. Everything points to no money.

The book ads are almost non existent anymore showing it isn't selling at all. I don't know about his personal holdings, but with his reputed spending habits, I would not be surprised if he isn't in a desperate cash crunch and no real solutions on the horizon. Desperate men do desperate things and this could explain his 180 degree turn with the IPT from benefactor to hiding under a rock.

I think we've all learned that once something doesn't go the way KT wants it to go, he stops putting money into it. Before too long we'll all be stuck watching him tout a new weight loss book. He's probably just using the old footage for the cream thing as a filler until he can get the weight loss book out.

Randy, I don't expect "code" to speak up anymore. I don't think they have it in them to defend themselves and their actions. Sending harassing emails to forum members out of sight from the rest of the members is more their style. :rolleyes:
 
Timberly said:
I think we've all learned that once something doesn't go the way KT wants it to go, he stops putting money into it. Before too long we'll all be stuck watching him tout a new weight loss book. He's probably just using the old footage for the cream thing as a filler until he can get the weight loss book out.

Randy, I don't expect "code" to speak up anymore. I don't think they have it in them to defend themselves and their actions. Sending harassing emails to forum members out of sight from the rest of the members is more their style. :rolleyes:
Code can't respond until Monday. Kt is away for the weekend . He will tell him/her what to say then. Johnnyt
 
8-ball bernie said:
this question is mainly for the IPT players... hopeful,doubtful,netural? what? answer please colin,linda,tammi,robin,etc.
i'll start,hopeful,but cautious.

If there are only a handful of posters whose opinions interest you on a subject, please private message them, rather than starting a thread and taking up unnecessary space on the forum . This is a public forum.
 
if you google "Kevin Tredeau", you can easily find out what kind of charecter he is. tons, and i mean tons of people have been scammed by that guy... the information is right there. i dont see how anyone can be hopeful after reading about this guy's past business practices and the number of people who he's ripped off.
 
I thought Trudeau was banned from selling products on television. If that is true then how can he be touting wrinkle cream even in an old commercial?
 
macguy said:
He is not worth responding to, he's just an IPT operative. Look here and you will see what I mean. Read some of the reviews.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/cu.../002-7518522-6564027?ie=UTF8&n=283155&s=books


At one time that book was one star but they have systematically driven up the stars with fake reviews. You notice there seems to be little in-between. Either real reviews with one star or fake reviews with five stars to dilute the average upward. Kevin only knows how to do what he does so they will come on here with these silly fake posters like they are fooling someone. It is really laughable

When I say fake reviews referring to the Amazon site, it is pretty obvious. They never just say they liked the book or found it interesting. They do a full blown sales pitch for the book giving it five stars. If someone just glanced at the number of stars they would think the book was of some value instead of worthless trash.

Kevin doesn't know the meaning of honesty but he found a little smarter audience here then he is used to, but that won't stop him from trying to plant fake posters. Read that guys other post where he warns the players against talking to a lawyer. It does show Kevin does have some concern and is paying attention to what is being said.

I forgot to add this. I don't want someone to think I am guessing when I say things on here. Regarding the Amazon book reviews you can click next to the name of the reviewer where it says "see all my reviews" and see their other reviews. What you will find with the five star reviews for Kevin's book will be, they have given anywhere from 3 or 4 to like a dozen five star reviews for the Kevin's book as well as for other books Kevin sells.

There are never any reviews for any other books. This is so easy to check and see what they are doing you would think they would not do it, but they don't care because most people won't check anyway. You have to wonder why Amazon lets this go on.

Why do you fell the need to make things up MacGuy???? I looked at the early reviews and the book has always had around a 3 star rating, it was never rated a 1, after the first 10 reviews it was rated 3.1 after 80 reviews it was at 3.4 etc. It may be hard for you to believe but a lot of people may have really liked the book, I only glanced through it and I found some very useful information that if acted on could result in a great deal of change for the better. A friend who has read the book spoke very highly of it.

I don't know KT except what I have read on here, I have never seen any of his infomercials, I would be leery about trusting him but making up things to make him seem worse than he is doesn't seem necessary.

Wayne
 
wayne said:
Why do you fell the need to make things up MacGuy???? I looked at the early reviews and the book has always had around a 3 star rating, it was never rated a 1, after the first 10 reviews it was rated 3.1 after 80 reviews it was at 3.4 etc. It may be hard for you to believe but a lot of people may have really liked the book, I only glanced through it and I found some very useful information that if acted on could result in a great deal of change for the better. A friend who has read the book spoke very highly of it.

I don't know KT except what I have read on here, I have never seen any of his infomercials, I would be leery about trusting him but making up things to make him seem worse than he is doesn't seem necessary.

Wayne

When I first started looking into it, it was at 1 to 1 1/2 stars. In the beginning I can only guess they started right out of the box with the fake reviews. Then real reviews brought it down quickly because so many books were sold and they began working on bringing it back up. There are over 2200 reviews there. It is easy to bring it up now though because since so few books are being sold there are far fewer bad reviews then there were so they can now get it up close to the four star mark and if you watch it for a while longer it should go higher quickly.

I have no reason to make anything up. Have you read the reviews and then looked at their other reviews? Some only give five star reviews to anything they review, they are some kind of shills for maybe a publisher. Some give only five star reviews and one star reviews to what may be competitors. It looks like a pretty sleazy business selling books. Please, don't tell me you believe those five star reviews? What do you think about the ones that gave it like ten different five star reviews to his book? They liked the book so much they couldn't contain themselves.

This is actually interesting. The numbers speak for themselves, there are 806 1 star reviews. Then the 2, 3 and 4 star total 325 the remaining are 1181 are 5 stars. Those numbers tell what is going on. 806 hated it, a few found it not that bad while everybody else thought it was the greatest thing they ever read. The numbers make no sense, there should be a majority 2, 3 and 4 for for it to average it the current 3 1/2 stars. You just have to use your common sense.
 
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macguy said:
When I first started looking into it, it was at 1 to 1 1/2 stars. In the beginning I can only guess they started right out of the box with the fake reviews. Then real reviews brought it down quickly because so many books were sold and they began working on bringing it back up. There are over 2200 reviews there. It is easy to bring it up now though because since so few books are being sold there are far fewer bad reviews then there were so they can now get it up close to the four star mark and if you watch it for a while longer it should go higher quickly.

I have no reason to make anything up. Have you read the reviews and then looked at their other reviews? Some only give five star reviews to anything they review, they are some kind of shills for maybe a publisher. Some give only five star reviews and one star reviews to what may be competitors. It looks like a pretty sleazy business selling books. Please, don't tell me you believe those five star reviews? What do you think about the ones that gave it like ten different five star reviews to his book? They liked the book so much they couldn't contain themselves.

This is actually interesting. The numbers speak for themselves, there are 806 1 star reviews. Then the 2, 3 and 4 star total 325 the remaining are 1181 are 5 stars. Those numbers tell what is going on. Most hated it, a few found it not that bad while everybody else thought it was the greatest thing they ever read. The numbers make no sense, there should be a majority 2, 3 and 4 for for it to average it the current 3 1/2 stars. You just have to use your common sense.

If you were using common sense you would know that anything very controversial is either loved or hated by most people. It seems you want to make up the 1 to 1 1/2 stars, you can read the reviews in date order first to last or last to first and the lowest it ever went was just below 3 stars. A lot of the reviewers review many different kinds of books and are reputable people and they gave it 5 stars and their reasons why. It may be hard for you to believe that others could have a different opinion than yours but it does happen. Also MOST usually means the greater number, so most did not hate it; according to your numbers less than 35% hated it.

(I'm glad that you are available to let us know that all bad reviews are real and all good reviews are fake.)

Wayne
 
wayne said:
If you were using common sense you would know that anything very controversial is either loved or hated by most people. It seems you want to make up the 1 to 1 1/2 stars, you can read the reviews in date order first to last or last to first and the lowest it ever went was just below 3 stars. A lot of the reviewers review many different kinds of books and are reputable people and they gave it 5 stars and their reasons why. It may be hard for you to believe that others could have a different opinion than yours but it does happen. Also MOST usually means the greater number, so most did not hate it; according to your numbers less than 35% hated it.

(I'm glad that you are available to let us know that all bad reviews are real and all good reviews are fake.)

Wayne

How do you explain the ones (same reviewer) that did 5 star reviews over and over for his book?
I type very fast and did not mean to say most but many and changed it to the correct number to be more accurate.
 
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macguy said:
How do you explain the ones (same reviewer) that did 5 star reviews over and over for his book?
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I only looked at a sampling and never saw anyone who wrote over and over. If someone did this then I would explain it by saying they had an "agenda" similiar to yourself and the way you want the book to be viewed.

The reviews I read seemed like honest opinions both good and bad by the people doing the reviews.
 
wayne said:
macguy said:
How do you explain the ones (same reviewer) that did 5 star reviews over and over for his book?
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I only looked at a sampling and never saw anyone who wrote over and over. If someone did this then I would explain it by saying they had an "agenda" similiar to yourself and the way you want the book to be viewed.

The reviews I read seemed like honest opinions both good and bad by the people doing the reviews.

It took me a few seconds to find one.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-reviews/A2QP4QX1ZW4XKU/ref=cm_cr_auth/002-7518522-6564027

You really have to go back a ways to when the book was really selling to find where they were really going nuts doing it. The book is hardly even being advertised any more and they may be giving up on it. Some one said he has a new weight loss book and that will be where all their efforts will be. This book is pretty dead now, I don't think many book stores are carrying it at all anymore.
 
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