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excessknowledge

excessknowledge

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I would like to thank Mike great site.Thanks Jam your great people.Stix your a cool Dude so is Purdman.Shorty you aint small at all bro.Your a big man in my eyes.Others I talked to sorry I did not mention your names but Im not sure who is who now.Just because there was dude others had probs with don't meen everyone that joins this site run them over the hot coals.If all these people are going to buy and sell and trade thats what the forum is there for.But when things go south don't run newbies through the mill.I have had nothing but a cavity check from everyone except a few and Im tierd of it.I have had 2 people this morning try to rip me off by telling me a $1600 cue was $250.I had another guy try to pass off a luscasi cue as the same as a handmade cue.Guess what I did not deal with them.Nothing says you have to make deals ?Ill stick with Ted Harris for repairs and Mike Lambros for cues.I know they are honest.So is Scott at Proficent billiards.Someone after they ran me through another cavity check forwarded a couple emails from you old ladies not talking about good things.What a waste of life!!!!!!I am sorry to my friends here but I am done with AZ because I don't need the headache of this.If I wanted this kinda action I could just go to the local BINGO hall and im sure within a week the old ladies would have it.
Latas
Administater you can cancel my screen name and passcode.
 
Oh well, you havent been on here that long, i just seen you started posting.
 
Muxy said:
Oh well, you havent been on here that long, i just seen you started posting.
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Yeah, but 70 posts in 8 days....

he coulda been running the place by July!

;)
 
excessknowledge said:
I would like to thank Mike great site.Thanks Jam your great people.Stix your a cool Dude so is Purdman.Shorty you aint small at all bro.Your a big man in my eyes.Others I talked to sorry I did not mention your names but Im not sure who is who now.Just because there was dude others had probs with don't meen everyone that joins this site run them over the hot coals.If all these people are going to buy and sell and trade thats what the forum is there for.But when things go south don't run newbies through the mill.I have had nothing but a cavity check from everyone except a few and Im tierd of it.I have had 2 people this morning try to rip me off by telling me a $1600 cue was $250.I had another guy try to pass off a luscasi cue as the same as a handmade cue.Guess what I did not deal with them.Nothing says you have to make deals ?Ill stick with Ted Harris for repairs and Mike Lambros for cues.I know they are honest.So is Scott at Proficent billiards.Someone after they ran me through another cavity check forwarded a couple emails from you old ladies not talking about good things.What a waste of life!!!!!!I am sorry to my friends here but I am done with AZ because I don't need the headache of this.If I wanted this kinda action I could just go to the local BINGO hall and im sure within a week the old ladies would have it.
Latas
Administater you can cancel my screen name and passcode.
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You had a very good potiental deal going with me. Time and place set up and you didn't show. You didn't see me on here bitching did ya? I made a decent deal anyway. Man, you shouldn't sweat the little sh!t. There are a-holes everywhere you go. There are also dishonest people who wish to steal your dough everywhere. I have sold over 30 cues here on this site. I give a guarentee with my deals. I even had one guy on here who got into an automobile accident and needed his money back because he needed his cash to stay out of trouble. I sent it back to him. So, don't think everybody is a bad guy on here. My experience has been the opposite.
Purdman
 
Wow! Only here less than a month! There is still plenty of time for you to start hating the rest of us because, let me tell you man, these forums are filled with people that will jerk you around and waste your time! But you have to expect that when you are dealing with any online forum. The beauty of the internet is that it links people together who are normally separated by distance and anonymity. When the only connection to you is a pseudonym, its easy to act a certain way so just wait! A hell of a lot of these guys will screw you over or try to. Not that AZ is a terrible place! Its not. But its an online forum so, you have to learn to live with that fact.
If you don't, you shouldn't be here posting. Hell! Not everyone on this forum is a scammer or a crook and not everyone you mentioned is a saint either. I've had a person or two on this forum waste my time and I've had others that were a pleasure to deal with. Bad experiences? Take them with a grain of salt and just accept them.
 
Hmm, that's why I don't like dealing with new people here.
Specially when they don't even have a name.
 
excessknowledge said:
If all these people are going to buy and sell and trade thats what the forum is there for.But when things go south don't run newbies through the mill.I have had nothing but a cavity check from everyone except a few and Im tierd of it.I have had 2 people this morning try to rip me off by telling me a $1600 cue was $250.I had another guy try to pass off a luscasi cue as the same as a handmade cue.Guess what I did not deal with them.
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First off I feel sorry that you had a BAD EXPERIENCE, or EXPERIENCES, but you are judging an entire Group by a could of APPARENT SCUM BAGS.

I call this the UMBRELLA THEORY, as you are judging all by the action of a few.

That is not fair to the good People on this Forum IMO. :(
 
Generalizations are bad

Generalizations are bad!!!
No matter where you go, sometimes even your "friend" is your worst enemy.

Bruce S. de Lis said:
First off I feel sorry that you had a BAD EXPERIENCE, or EXPERIENCES, but you are judging an entire Group by a could of APPARENT SCUM BAGS.

I call this the UMBRELLA THEORY, as you are judging all by the action of a few.

That is not fair to the good People on this Forum IMO. :(
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Unfortunately, the pool world, to include those who buy/sell/trade in pool cues, has plenty of sheisters in it. To play within this world it certainly helps to openly recognize this up front. Thankfully, with the information sharing abilities we have today, the sheisters are becoming fewer and more far between, and most importantly, known among the community. But the problem will never go away as there are and always will be a few out there who will compromise their integrity with the gullible in order to make a few dollars. However, on the positive side, there are plenty of honest, forthright folks out there as well. So it isn't all quite doom and gloom.

Due to the wide array of members, this website has about 90% of everything you'll ever need to know about pool, I suggest you stay even if it is to just lurk around. If you do post, especially to sell cues, you definitely need to be prepared to take a beating from those here who mistakenly think they own the place. I would compare it to going out on the playground as kids, and of course some here are more mature than others. At most, I recommend you take a break for a while, recognize your experiences for what they are, learn from it, and jump back in when you feel up to it.
 
I got scamed out of 2new cues I owned on here this AZ valued At over $2,200. I was super pissed of the guy no who he is and i never forget some one who screwed me but I have brushed it off was very hard and i no ya always run into people like that. I learned to use a escrow service whish i new this before lol o0nly a $2,000 lesson. would have only costed me like 50 bucks. The guy who ripped me off was that master cue artist guy so beware of him I see he has pulled a lot of his posts selling stuff and i hope he getts hit bye lightning lol. I love pool cues and pool and am a great guy just next time i will use escrow service.
 
matthew staton said:
I got scamed out of 2new cues I owned on here this AZ valued At over $2,200. I was super pissed of the guy no who he is and i never forget some one who screwed me but I have brushed it off was very hard and i no ya always run into people like that. I learned to use a escrow service whish i new this before lol o0nly a $2,000 lesson. would have only costed me like 50 bucks. The guy who ripped me off was that master cue artist guy so beware of him I see he has pulled a lot of his posts selling stuff and i hope he getts hit bye lightning lol. I love pool cues and pool and am a great guy just next time i will use escrow service.
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im sorry to hear that. when he first posted i said he sounded like that cue museum guy. bad news......
 
matthew staton said:
I got scamed out of 2new cues I owned on here this AZ valued At over $2,200. I was super pissed of the guy no who he is and i never forget some one who screwed me but I have brushed it off was very hard and i no ya always run into people like that. I learned to use a escrow service whish i new this before lol o0nly a $2,000 lesson. would have only costed me like 50 bucks. The guy who ripped me off was that master cue artist guy so beware of him I see he has pulled a lot of his posts selling stuff and i hope he getts hit bye lightning lol. I love pool cues and pool and am a great guy just next time i will use escrow service.
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Master cue artist guy? Did he have a screen name? Did you call your local police? Did you call his local police? Overseas transaction?
 
cubswin said:
Master cue artist guy? Did he have a screen name? Did you call your local police? Did you call his local police? Overseas transaction?
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his screen name was "mastercueartist" still here.

i asked about the "cue museum guy" here before, he posts in places wanting to buy or sell old cue parts, bushkas, ect. claims to be related to frank paradise? i think joe knew something about him?

i believe he is posting in best billiards classified section whith names like docfry, szambushka, ect. im sorry if im wrong if thats the wrong guy?

he claims to sell old cues and parts at some flee market near jersey?

search cue museum guy here and maybee it will show what others posted.
 
Here on AZB you are not just dealing with other poolplayers, but collectors and gamblers. Some having very sharp negotiating skills. And like the rest of the world, there are a few theives. Is a good negotiator a theif? Not in my opinion. I just know when I am buying or selling, I have to be on top of my game and know what I am gettin myself into. I have been offered pennies for cues I had for sale, worth alot more. In the same aspect, I have done the same to other sellers. So I cant get mad when someone tries to low ball me. How else would you find that great buy AKA steal. I have been burned on deals and I have stolen cues. And I try to learn from every deal I engage in.

Why get mad at a whole group if one tries to get a good deal on a cue?
 
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Here on AZB you are not just dealing with other poolplayers, but collectors and gamblers. Some having very sharp negotiating skills. And like the rest of the world, there are a few theives. Is a good negotiator a theif? Not in my opinion. I just know when I am buying or selling, I have to be on top of my game and know what I am gettin myself into. I have been offered pennies for cues I had for sale, worth alot more. In the same aspect, I have done the same to other sellers. So I cant get mad when someone tries to low ball me. How else would you find that great buy AKA steal. I have been burned on deals and I have stolen cues. And I try to learn from every deal I engage in.

Why get mad at a whole group if one tries to get a good deal on a cue?
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reason i got mad is the sent me a cue that was broke and had a bent pin . he told me that it had joint protecters i did not get them he told me we both over night the cues I over nighted my two cue for his two cue i only got one he screwed me on the other one i sold the guy the other night after i had it rewraped found some nice suprises under there. it did not happen in shipping i could get this guy with mail fraud and make his life hell but i said screw it he ain't worth any more of my time some one will probally knock the shit out of him in the future after he screws them over.
 
matthew staton said:
reason i got mad is the sent me a cue that was broke and had a bent pin . he told me that it had joint protecters i did not get them he told me we both over night the cues I over nighted my two cue for his two cue i only got one he screwed me on the other one i sold the guy the other night after i had it rewraped found some nice suprises under there. it did not happen in shipping i could get this guy with mail fraud and make his life hell but i said screw it he ain't worth any more of my time some one will probally knock the shit out of him in the future after he screws them over.
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WOW... You found a thief... I understand why you are upset and would want to kill someone... I know I would want tack this person down and hurt him if I were in you situation... I know you dont want to hear this, but this is a leason to learn from... This is why there are escrow and third party inspection services... Proficient Billiards has this service: http://www.proficientbilliards.com/services/escrowservice.htm
Sorry to hear all that happened to you... Just dont give up on everyone hear at AZB... There are more good people here then theives... If you remember who he is, point him out to the rest of us, so we know not to deal with him...
 
C'mon lets grow a little

I was making a deal with "Hunter" (Screen Name) it was my first post on here. He didnt know me from a bum, but he took the chance and sent me a $1000 cue in two days to my front door for me to inspect. The deal didnt pan out and I promptly repacked the cue and sent it back to him in two days time. Im sure I will purchas cues from "Hunter" in the future, hes a real stand up guy. The moral of this story is, most of us are honest."Crooks are everywhere" gather all info you can before dealing with anyone, generally you can tell a crook by them wanting to withhold info such as address, full name, etc. Im sure you have been around long enough to have heard "Dont let one bad apple ruin the bunch".
 
Danny 314 said:
Here on AZB you are not just dealing with other poolplayers, but collectors and gamblers. Some having very sharp negotiating skills. And like the rest of the world, there are a few theives. Is a good negotiator a theif? Not in my opinion. I just know when I am buying or selling, I have to be on top of my game and know what I am gettin myself into. I have been offered pennies for cues I had for sale, worth alot more. In the same aspect, I have done the same to other sellers. So I cant get mad when someone tries to low ball me. How else would you find that great buy AKA steal. I have been burned on deals and I have stolen cues. And I try to learn from every deal I engage in.

Why get mad at a whole group if one tries to get a good deal on a cue?
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trying to get a good deal is onething being a "scam artist" is a nother.
 
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