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Nine Ball

Nine Ball

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Can anyone identify this old cue? My apologies for listing without a price. SOLD....

Lots of cue knowledge in this section so I know it's the best section to ask in.

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dave sutton said:
None of the above. Not like I've seen and i just looked thru a thousand pics. Joint is wrong. ESP collars.

Might be import.

This is dicks site. Cue is close but joint is different. A lot of times knock offs blatantly copied cues.

http://www.thisisamesmister.com/doc_fry.html
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Shaft wood and overall quality of inlays is too good to be import. Cue wasn't just slapped together when it was new. Believe it's a cortland wrap too with the dots and collar rings being possible ivory.
 
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It looks like a doc fry, but I thought he glued pennies under the bumper to date cues.
 
PDX said:
It looks like a doc fry, but I thought he glued pennies under the bumper to date cues.
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Would pulling the weight bolt out and photoing it do anything on helping identify?
 
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I just searched a ton on Doc Fry and and I'm leaning towards him now. It's so hard to figure out these old cues unless you really know about them.
 
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Well. Back then all cues were hand made. Some of them import Adam cues were very very well done.

Doc fry didn't have pennies in all of his cues. You have to look at how certain things are done. The pic is wrong. How The pin is finished on the end is always something I look at. I have many many pics and saw a few Docs in person and I can't find one with that pin. Also the ring work is similar but not that same.

I would love nothing better then to tell you it's a doc but I just don't see it.

I think u have a like an Adam (see the Americana I sold one looks like a frye) or a rich or maybe old Viking.

I can say almost certainly not a doc and deff not a Palmer or Paradise. I have thousands of examples of there cues and usually something matches and nothing does with this cue. Sorry
 
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I can totally be wrong !!, but, having 7 Abe Rich Cues here right now, the pin looks just a little long on this cue and the threaded pin seems to be a little newer maybe. I can't tell you about Doc or Paradise, but, I think you might be able to eleminate a Rich cue if they are close.
 
After more research I believe you have a late 60's viking. Try to contact Viking cues. Old Vikings are not easy to find but I found a few. I knew I saw that joint in a cue ive owned a long time ago. Pre pics. Pre azb.

Here are a few examples of early 70's Vikings. The size of the pilot and collars makes me think it may be older then these cues.

Hope this helps. One is almost exactly like yours.

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dave sutton said:
After more research I believe you have a late 60's viking. Try to contact Viking cues. Old Vikings are not easy to find but I found a few. I knew I saw that joint in a cue ive owned a long time ago. Pre pics. Pre azb.

Here are a few examples of early 70's Vikings. The size of the pilot and collars makes me think it may be older then these cues.

Hope this helps. One is almost exactly like yours.

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WINNER!!! or page 2 points to PERHAPS NOT!
 
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PDX said:
It looks like a doc fry, but I thought he glued pennies under the bumper to date cues.
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That's pretty freaking cool! And I guess a way for anyone seriously wanting to counterfeit one to add "authenticity".
 
That Viking is a brass pilot on the shaft, right? Looks like a wood pilot on the op's, but maybe I'm seeing it wrong.

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dave sutton said:
After more research I believe you have a late 60's viking. Try to contact Viking cues. Old Vikings are not easy to find but I found a few. I knew I saw that joint in a cue ive owned a long time ago. Pre pics. Pre azb.

Here are a few examples of early 70's Vikings. The size of the pilot and collars makes me think it may be older then these cues.

Hope this helps. One is almost exactly like yours.
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Wood pilot on mine. Not a Viking.
 
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