So I am looking at an old joss, I THINK its the 94 07 model, it has joss spelled in the points. Just curious of a rough estimate of the price would be in good condition, sorry I don't have pics.
Old joss
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Seriously, nobody has any idea?
Between $150-200. Good guess Id say.
Well if your anywhere seriously close, this guy is way off. He is asking 1k which I thought was a bit much but I didn't think it would drop to 150 or 200
Condition is everything. The 94-07 model by Joss originally had a retail price of $740.00. It's not possible to really know how many copies of that particular cue model were made. If you contacted Joss about that, they may not want to release production number information for their cues. On the other hand they may, assuming that they ever kept accurate production records during the time that those '94 series cues were produced.
Collector value is based on condition, rarity, and buyer interest. The model your looking at has been one of the more memorable cue models from Joss cue history. If the cue is still in excellent condition, meaning 90%+ grade condition I would expect that the cue should be value at least in the $800.00+ range. 1K might be pushing it a bit. But in the 90%+ condition, it should never be valued in the $150 t0 $200 condition.
Now if the condition is less than 90% condition then you need to look at the issues related to finish on the butt, condition of the butt cap, is the shaft straight or is it warped any?, any probems with the joint?, those kinds of issues are what has to be looked at for assesment of condition. And if the condition is one of a well travelled & well played cue with nicks and dings in the finish then the cue value could fall to maybe somewhere in the $500 to $700 range.
If there are extra shafts to the cue, their value needs to added into any assesment of the cue.
Hope this helps.
David "Glamour Dave" Nienow
Collector value is based on condition, rarity, and buyer interest. The model your looking at has been one of the more memorable cue models from Joss cue history. If the cue is still in excellent condition, meaning 90%+ grade condition I would expect that the cue should be value at least in the $800.00+ range. 1K might be pushing it a bit. But in the 90%+ condition, it should never be valued in the $150 t0 $200 condition.
Now if the condition is less than 90% condition then you need to look at the issues related to finish on the butt, condition of the butt cap, is the shaft straight or is it warped any?, any probems with the joint?, those kinds of issues are what has to be looked at for assesment of condition. And if the condition is one of a well travelled & well played cue with nicks and dings in the finish then the cue value could fall to maybe somewhere in the $500 to $700 range.
If there are extra shafts to the cue, their value needs to added into any assesment of the cue.
Hope this helps.
David "Glamour Dave" Nienow
Thank you for your response. What you said is in line with what I was thinking and considering it is coming from more or less a Joss collector, its in great shape all except the missing bottom rubber. I will have to examine it more closely next time I have a chance for any dings but he takes excellent care of his cues so I highly doubt there are any.
I was asking in case I ever wanted to resell it, I don't want to pay 800 for something I can only sell for 600.
Way, way too much in today's market. We were in a pawn shop in Myrtle Beach last year and they had a plain gray-stained Joss, no inlays or anything else and wanted $400. I laughed as I handed it back
Way, way too much in today's market. We were in a pawn shop in Myrtle Beach last year and they had a plain gray-stained Joss, no inlays or anything else and wanted $400. I laughed as I handed it back
It's not a plain cue though, if I remember correct its a gold letter joss with like I said, Joss written in the points. Pretty nice cue and in good shape. So if you think it's too much what is a fair price?
Realistically, you're probably looking at a value of around $400 plus or minus if it were auctioned, if it had two shafts and was in very good condition. There were a lot of Joss cues made, especially after "Color of Money" - this keeps the resale value down.
Best thing to do to confirm the price is to run a search on e-bay for completed auctions. If you sift though this search, you will see some older ones with the complexity of work of yours and the values.
You can search for completed Joss cues on ebay. Go to "advanced search" enter Joss Cues and completed listings.
Here are a couple of examples of older Joss cues:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Joss-loaded-color-money-cue-80S-real-deal-very-sweet-/250980898533?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6fa096e5
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-Gold-Letter-Joss-cue-Four-Point-Leather-wrap-/110822658469?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19cd8b91a5
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I'd go with TATE. I was only citing an example from my own experience. It would have to be in superb shape to command even close to a grand, in my opinion.
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Joss 94-07
Is this your cue? I'd say $500 tops, is a good price, considering the economy.
http://www.josscues.com/cue_archives/Archive/html/94_html/94-07.html
Is this your cue? I'd say $500 tops, is a good price, considering the economy.
http://www.josscues.com/cue_archives/Archive/html/94_html/94-07.html
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Yes that is it. Thank you all for your opinions, I was thinking it was around 5 or 600 so unless he comes up with a different number I won't be buying it.
Shane hustled the world with his Joss-
Shane wanted another Joss from Danny bad. I own an n-17, and an A- 4, both from early 90's. The shaftwood from these days was good!! You can also use schon shafts with Joss cues. (with a little tuning). And schon fronts with a Joss shaft. the price is reflected in the market.
Shane wanted another Joss from Danny bad. I own an n-17, and an A- 4, both from early 90's. The shaftwood from these days was good!! You can also use schon shafts with Joss cues. (with a little tuning). And schon fronts with a Joss shaft. the price is reflected in the market.