Old Schon just refinished !

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housefrau

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Hello everybody,
I bought this Schon years ago in a little shop here in Germany.
Then i played with it about 10 years and let it refinish this year.
Now i want to know how old and what kind of cue this is, so i asked Evan and he told me that he made this Cue about 15 years ago and he said that this is a SP 33. But thats a little wiered course i saw cues for sale that should also be SP 33 but they look completely different.

Perhaps someone can tell me what kind of model this is and perhaps someone can tell me the value of this cue.







THX,
Markus
 
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This issue has come up before. When it was originally designed in the late 1980's, your cue was supposed to be designated an SP 33. Schon's design drawings are labeled as such (see below) which I think were done by Bob Runde. When it was made, apparently the model numbers were juggled around. I don't know what Model # yours is, but it is from the SP series and was made probably in 1989 or so and was discontinued by the time the ad was published.

Below is the original Schon technical drawing (which you may print for your records) as well as a copy of the SP ad from 1990 showing a different design on the SP 33.

For more Schon info, you can go to my site and click on "Schon" on the home page.



Chris

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Many thx for your help.
It is really interesting what you can tell me about Schon Cues.
I talked to Evan but he can´t say me such detailed things about the cue.

What do you think ist the value of a cue like this ?
 
evan can say more then you think.. getting info out of him is like getting blood from a stone.. he will only answer direct questiosn.. like is you ask him about a particular schon and you want him to tell you all about it he may just tell you the model number and thats it.. and if you refer to a old schon as a runde schon he freaks.. he insisted to me that runde had a tiny part in building the cues back then and hardley did any of the work... chris
 
housefrau said:
Many thx for your help.
It is really interesting what you can tell me about Schon Cues.
I talked to Evan but he can´t say me such detailed things about the cue.

What do you think ist the value of a cue like this ?
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The Schons made after the 1980's tend to be more players cues than collectors cues. I've sold Schons of similar vintage and complexity for $600 - $700 on e-bay. Although they are great playing cues, there were a lot made, so this keeps the prices down. Also, they've made these sort of designs in greater and greater complexity for 15 years now, so there is a saturation of the fancier cues.

The old Schons collectors seem to pick up and are valued quite a bit higher are the ones with milled points, the fancier the better.

Chris
 
ChrisOnline said:
evan can say more then you think.. getting info out of him is like getting blood from a stone.. he will only answer direct questiosn.. like is you ask him about a particular schon and you want him to tell you all about it he may just tell you the model number and thats it.. chris
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Hi Chris,

I like talking to Evan because, like you said, he knows a lot. We traded some funny story e-mails and generally I was cracking up the whole time.

We have to cut Evan some slack. In his defense, he is asked so many questions that he doesn't have time to do all this stuff. Schon has made thousands of models for over 20 years, not all of which are documented. He makes the cues, he advertises, he researches. He's a one man show.

He deserves respect for building Schon into what is a quality name and a successful business. He has to make a living. Basically the guy has sweat his balls off for over 15 years and built one of the best playing cues ever made.

Chris
 
Always the highly valuable resource, Chris.... Interesting info - thanks for sharing!

I agree, I can only imagine what Evan's inbox looks like on a daily basis. The nice thing is that he doesn't have to respond, but he chooses to, even if it is only a direct answer.

-Ross
 
I asked Evan what the model # of the cue was and he answered me that he thinks it is a SP33 but he cannot say for sure. The best wounld be sending him the cue and he can say it for sure.
But thats exactly the problem.
I live in Germany and sending a cue to the states only to know what model# it its, is quite expensive. So i asked in here.
An other things is, i bought this cue new here in Germany many years ago, but i really can´t say when it was exactly. I only know it was my first really playing cue for years after some Meuccis and it must have been round the 90s.
But the main question is, should i keep it or trade/sell it.
I know Schon cues are built in large amounts so they are not as unique as a custom one. But it was my first real playing cue and i am the first owner of this cue, so it don´t know what to do or what i can get when selling this cue.
@ TATE
You mean $600-700 is a resonable price for it ?
Thats about € 500-500 (Euro). I had an offer for this cue here in Germany that was € 700 (ca. $875) from a collector.
Really hard to decide.
 
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TATE said:
Hi Chris,

I like talking to Evan because, like you said, he knows a lot. We traded some funny story e-mails and generally I was cracking up the whole time.

We have to cut Evan some slack. In his defense, he is asked so many questions that he doesn't have time to do all this stuff. Schon has made thousands of models for over 20 years, not all of which are documented. He makes the cues, he advertises, he researches. He's a one man show.

He deserves respect for building Schon into what is a quality name and a successful business. He has to make a living. Basically the guy has sweat his balls off for over 15 years and built one of the best playing cues ever made.

Chris
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i agree.. i love schons.. and i met evan clarke in person one year at Valley Forge.. he is a great guy and a foutain of knowlege.. i have always had a place in my heart for schons and i always will.. i was just saying what i did because i found it hard to get any info.. took like 5 emails just to get a few details.. which is not a big deal.. and when i asked about a cue being a runde era cue, he freaked on me telling me that runde had a very little part in schon and that he (evan) did all the work and runde basiacally did nothing.. i will have to see if still have that email..

chris
 
housefrau said:
But the main question is, should i keep it or trade/sell it.
I know Schon cues are built in large amounts so they are not as unique as a custom one. But it was my first real playing cue and i am the first owner of this cue, so it don´t know what to do or what i can get when selling this cue.
@ TATE
You mean $600-700 is a resonable price for it ?
Thats about € 500-500 (Euro). I had an offer for this cue here in Germany that was € 700 (ca. $875) from a collector.
Really hard to decide.
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They might go for a few more dollars in Germany, plus the Euro is strong against the dollar. € 700 would be a good price for you to accept. it's not out of the question that the cue would bring $800 US here on e-bay, but $600 to $700 is more likely.

If you've found another playing cue, then I would suggest you sell it unless you wanted to keep it as a back up. Generally, I would not advise hanging onto a cue unless it's truly collectible or your player.

I've sold many cues I've liked because I didnt think they were truly long term collectibles, including similar Schons. I also have a half dozen old Schons in my collection, old R series cues, that I have no plans to sell.

Chris
 
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@TATE
I bought myself a PFD and thats my playing cue now. Really love the soft hit. As i want to collect cues i will keep the Schon. Perhaps time will come and i can trade it for ????.

@ Chris
The same happened to me. It also took several mails to get an answer fron Evan. Fortunatelly i didn´t ask about Runde :)
 
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