AimWithYourMind
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Add a zero Willie!
On Willie's table, Neils could run 5,260
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Neils
Willie played with much different equipment, especially the balls.
Back then you got two cue balls when you rented a table, any game that required a hard break, you broke with the breaker cue ball and switched to the playing cue ball after the break. Those old pool balls were nothing like the modern equipment.
Dale
Willie played with much different equipment, especially the balls.
Back then you got two cue balls when you rented a table, any game that required a hard break, you broke with the breaker cue ball and switched to the playing cue ball after the break. Those old pool balls were nothing like the modern equipment.
Dale
And now when you play any game that requires a hard break, you break with the breaker cue and switch to the playing cue after the break.
In the future maybe we'll have hybrid cues that break crushingly hard AND play amazing! lol!
Looks like the "big pocket" big lie has hooked another guppy.
Willie ALSO ran 300-and-something(9, 16, 19?) on a 5 x 10 with
4 1/2 inch pockets - let me know when a current player does that.
Dale.
Where can I find info on this? I was always interested in Mr. Mosconi's career but I was never sure where to find reliable information.
As long as we're talking about all the things the great Willie Mosconi did let's not forget to mention that at the closing ceremonies for a big tournament, when Mosconi was handed the 2nd place money by the ref. that had called a foul on him in the finals he punched him in the face and knocked him out. Then he walked out. I guess someone forgot to tell the ref. that you're not supposed to call a foul on the great Willie Mosconi.
Game = Straight Pool 150 Points
Joe Balsis vs. Willie Mosconi
Referee = Arnie Satin
Play begins, Willie wins the lag – Balsis breaks, and does so perfectly. They each play a few super safeties jockeying back and forth trying to get a shot, they both take a couple of scratches during this opening rack, then Balsis is near the end rail and calls a ball behind the stack that he must cut backwards, he makes it, and receives a thunderous ovation. Joe (the butcher) waits for the noise to stop, then proceeds to run balls and finally misses a difficult break shot, this makes the score Balsis +138 to Mosconi -2. Joe had run 10 racks, surely Willie would fold…
Like Joe, Willie waits for the well deserved applause and cheering that Balsis had earned to cease. He then gets up out of his chair, comes to the table and begins to run balls as smoothly as Fred Astaire could dance. Rack after rack he runs balls with a confidence, skill, and knowledge of straight pool that only Willie posessed. Willie makes an unusually difficult break shot. Now the score is Willie Mosconi 139, Joe Balsis 138, but lo and behold, the cue ball has frozen to the top of the stack, it looks like Willie doesn’t have a shot, there are 3 balls all in line frozen together on the right side of the pack with the cueball frozen to the top ball and in the same line, counting the cueball this makes it 4 balls in a row all frozen together. After studying the shot in depth, Willie announces to the referee (Arnie Satin), that he is going to play the middle ball in the corner pocket. The crowd is on their feet, he elevates his cue, hits the cue ball at 10:30 (high left english), and the middle ball splits the wicket.
The crowd starts to go crazy cheering, then Arnie Satin yells foul, Mr. Mosconi has committed an illegal push. Balsis gets up runs 12 and wins the match…
Arnie Satin also had the honor of calling out all those players names who had finished in the money, having them come forth and present them with their prise money envelope. After completing that. He asked if Willie Mosconi and Joe Balsis would come up together, well the audience, which consisted of some of the biggest names in Hollywood, went wild displaying their appreciation of the quality of pool they had just witnessed. Willie was on Arnie’s right Balsis on Arnie’s left…
Arnie began by saying, and quote, “And now to Willie Mosconi who played brilliantly” – that’s all he got out, Willie grabbed the 2nd place envelope with his left hand and hit Arnie with a right sucker punch uppercut, knocking him out cold! Willie – what a scene, what a temper…
Talk's cheap
As are usernames!!
The fact remains, Mosconi set the record.
There is a reason that the legends of the past are legends in any sport, they were very, very good. Who is to say that with modern equipment Mosconi would not have been better even than he was?
It is fun and interesting to compare those legends with todays stars but we should never belittle their achievements.
There is a reason that the legends of the past are legends in any sport, they were very, very good. Who is to say that with modern equipment Mosconi would not have been better even than he was?
It is fun and interesting to compare those legends with todays stars but we should never belittle their achievements.
According to Dan Diliberto, through Fels, this is not true. Diliberto was an eye witness as he was in the field. Diliberto's account sounds much more realistic.
http://www.billiardsdigest.com/showblogentry.php?id=124
Kelly
If he thought he could break the record, he already would have. It would have to be worth tens of thousands in sponsorship.
And if Wilie had LD shafts, better cloth, better balls, better cushions, better control of humidity, he might have run a million balls..... Again, who really cares about the 526, the 15 consecutive World Championships is NEVER gonna be topped, ever, by anyone, anywhere, in any sport, at any time..... nuff said.
Just cracks me up that pool players are the only folks who play lets keep knocking the greats of the game they love..... is there a point????
take away pocketpoint's op, this crap pops up all the time. to qoute jack nicholson in the departed, "if ya coulda, ya woulda". i hear all the time mosconi did the run on this table with these pockets, yadda yadda yadda.
with all of the advances we have, shafts, tips, chalk, balls, cloth, etc. no one has beat it.
there are 8 ft tables with buckets out there and i still haven't heard anyone - officialy break 526.
the only advantage mosconi really had was that 14:1 was the main game played most of his life and what he played the most. every other advantage goes to the modern player. and there are more than a few who play 14:1.
i don't say it will never be broken, all records are set to be broken. i just wish people would stop trying to cheapen mosconi's effort.
with all of the advances we have, shafts, tips, chalk, balls, cloth, etc. no one has beat it.
there are 8 ft tables with buckets out there and i still haven't heard anyone - officialy break 526.
the only advantage mosconi really had was that 14:1 was the main game played most of his life and what he played the most. every other advantage goes to the modern player. and there are more than a few who play 14:1.
i don't say it will never be broken, all records are set to be broken. i just wish people would stop trying to cheapen mosconi's effort.