One Ball One Pocket

I saw it played for $1k per game (Lil Jon vs Edgar) in Houston. They where starting the OB froze to the center of the foot rail with no offensive shot on the opening break. They were trying to bunt the OB in front of their own side pocket without selling out the two railer. And balls would spot for fouls just as normally would. And they would take fouls on occasion.


Thank you Nut for weighing in here. How are you, good I hope.
 
Thank you Nut for weighing in here. How are you, good I hope.

No prob, doing well Sir.

I am guessing you could start the OB anywhere you and your opponent agree to. But I've seen the game played on several occasions and never have I seen them play the opening break with the OB on the spot. And never have I seen them allow offensive opening shot. If you start it on the spot it's fairly easy to bunt the OB safe and lay the CB on the end rail. The main reason to start the OB froze to the foot rail is because it takes a more skillful opening shot to lay it down safe.
 
The reason the cue ball starts on the spot and NOT on the end rail is because that is a situation that comes up frequently in One Pocket. Not shooting at your hole the first shot teaches you strategy that can and will be used in a real game.

If the ball is frozen on the end rail and you have ball in hand behind the line, a good player will 4 rail the ob to his hole and get safe everytime. Making the ball a lot once you learn the table. It's pointless to play it that way

Another problem with playing your way is, why wouldn't I just cut the ball in my hole over and over again?
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The first line of your post makes no sense at all I never said the cue ball started on the rail.
If you and read what I wrote you would see that I said the OB starts on the foot rail frozen to the middle diamond.
In fact I never mentioned where the cue ball started at all, the cue ball starts on the head spot. Again if you had bothered to read what I said, your not allowed to shoot at your pocket on the first shot of the game, you must play safe.

Oh by the way this is what Jay Helfert said a while ago. Agreeing that the OBJECT BALL starts frozen to the middle of the foot rail.
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04-06-2009, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Pushout View Post
The object ball is frozen to the middle diamond on the bottom rail. Cue ball in hand behind the head string. First one to pocket the object ball in his pocket wins. That's the way I've seen it.

Edit: Rethinking, it's been a long time, cue ball may start on the head spot, ball could probably be cut in from the side rail with ball in hand. Makes more sense.

Quote by: Jay Helfert
This is correct, except you are banking the ball back up table to your corner pocket. Maybe that will help refresh your memory.

Jay goes on to say he's scene it played where the opponents have the head rail pockets or the foot rail pockets.

If you weren't so busy being full of yourself and calling people names, to steal your phrase," maybe you'd learn something".

So you might want to think about changing your name DR.OnePocket,
or maybe just learn the rules, it would be less embarrassing. You feeling
me! Hey at least "my little brain" as you put it knows the rules smart guy! Hey where did you go now that every one disagreed with you?
 
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I don't care if you play the game right or not.

This is a game, not a drill/game. Playing with the ball frozen to the bottom rail is the way I've seen it played. How you've played the game may not be the way it's played in other parts of the country. Rules vary according to region. People play the way they are used to playing. There are no rule book-rules for this game, just as there are no official rules for games like Razzle.
 
I'm no expert, but I've only ever seen this game for cash, never for practice. I'm from the Philly area, where "one ball one pocket", and "bare ball back pocket" are very popular games amongst certain players, that bet it up.

I'm pretty sure the Philly players would be the authority on these games. Back Pocket 9 ball was supposedly invented by Pete Fusco, and one ball one pocket, was played a lot in Philly.

Unfortunately, I came from a different area of Philly, where the full games of one pocket and back pocket were played, not the single ball version of both. So I can't comment fully on the rules of the single ball version. However to the best of my recollection, both games were started with the ball frozen to the end rail, and offensive opening shots were not allowed.
 
Sounds to me that if you are gonna play some one ball, one pocket you oughta be sober enough to get the rules straightened out before the break:D
 
I don't care if you play the game right or not.

And I guess that you don't care that everyone is telling you that the object ball starts frozen to the middle of the foot rail either.

You didn't let me down I didn't expect for you to admit that you were wrong
even when the over whelming majority of the posters are telling you that.

It's simply amazing when someones ego won't allow them admit when their wrong, but you don't want to learn anything, you'd rather pretend you're right. LOL

Enjoy your fantasy!
 
And I guess that you don't care that everyone is telling you that the object ball starts frozen to the middle of the foot rail either.

You didn't let me down I didn't expect for you to admit that you were wrong
even when the over whelming majority of the posters are telling you that.

It's simply amazing when someones ego won't allow them admit when their wrong, but you don't want to learn anything, you'd rather pretend you're right. LOL

Enjoy your fantasy!


I have played this game for about 5 years and in several different pool halls in 3 states. No one has ever even suggested to me or anyone else involved to play it the way you play it. I have already explained why it is played the way it is, but you seem to stupid to get it. This game started as a practice drill to help people learn the end game in one pocket. Why don't you bring your mouth, your cue, and your wallet to Memphis the 16, and 17th and we can play a set your way and my way and we will see who knows what. If you aren't broke we can play some even One Pocket when we are done. How does that sound?
 
I have played this game for about 5 years and in several different pool halls in 3 states. No one has ever even suggested to me or anyone else involved to play it the way you play it. I have already explained why it is played the way it is, but you seem to stupid to get it. This game started as a practice drill to help people learn the end game in one pocket. Why don't you bring your mouth, your cue, and your wallet to Memphis the 16, and 17th and we can play a set your way and my way and we will see who knows what. If you aren't broke we can play some even One Pocket when we are done. How does that sound?

Several people have explained to you why the OB starts out frozen to the middle diamond on the foot rail, didn't you read what they have said and they have and I have been around this game much longer than you, are you stupid? Read and learn come on wake up!!! Why do I waste my time with someone who's not even smart enough to understand the rules.
Please reread the thread, doubtful, but you may learn something.

Try to remember that your the one that started with your mouth first, and that wouldn't be so bad but your running your mouth and you don't know what your talking about. That is what makes it so hard to swallow your cr*p.
Several people have tried to explain to you that you are incorrect, these people have been around this game a long long time.
But you've been playing One Ball One Pocket for 5 whole years, WOO HOO so nobody can tell you anything you think you know more than people who have been around the game three times as long as you. Good luck to you with that attitude. I'm done talking to you it's a waste of my time!!!
 
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Several people have explained to you why the OB starts out frozen to the middle diamond on the foot rail, didn't you read what they have said and they have and I have been around this game much longer than you, are you stupid? Read and learn come on wake up!!! Why do I waste my time with someone who's not even smart enough to understand the rules.
Please reread the thread, doubtful, but you may learn something.

So you are scared to play I see. Smart move moron, i would have left you broke
 
Don't live your whole life as a chickenshit. Come play some PLEASE! Bigtruck will be there, maybe we can stream it so everyone can see just how knowledgeable you really are
 
Don't live your whole life as a chickenshit. Come play some PLEASE! Bigtruck will be there, maybe we can stream it so everyone can see just how knowledgeable you really are

Don't change the topic because every one is saying that you are wrong.

Try to stay on the topic:

The point we're discussing is that at the start of a game of One Ball One Pocket the object ball starts out frozen to the middle diamond on the foot rail. When you play the game correctly. You must play a safe to start the game. It doesn't get much more simple than that. The reason it's frozen to the rail is because it makes the opening shot a much more skillful shot to play.

Can we get a few more people who have been playing this game for a long time to weigh in here. Not that we haven't already had quite a few already state this fact.
 
Guys,

It really doesn't matter how you play the game, just so you play. No need to get rude DrOnePocket. Itsfroze is only trying to communicate how he knows the game is played and I along with many others agree with him. But if you want to start the game on the spot and allow offensive shots you are more then free to do so. I can see both sides. For a drill it's okay to start the OB on the spot. But for my money I want to make it more difficult for my opponent. Therefore, in a gambling match I want the OB froze on the end rail. I want my opponent to have to lay down a good shot to get out of the break. Things can go wrong when the ball is froze. You could double kiss or you could even sell out by hitting it too thin. You go to come with it when it's froze. I also agree it's extremely important to practice spot shots. Both of you should lighten up on each other or I will bust both of you all on the 10 footer.:happydance::deadhorse:
 
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You said "you do not start with the OB on the spot" and actually yes "we" do as well as most other pool rooms I've played it it. YO

You are speaking of how you play it, and that's fine also.

You do not start with the OB on the spot. You start with the OB frozen to the middle of the short rail (middle spot) at the foot of the table. You are not allowed to play a shot to pocket the OB ball on the first shot of the game, you must play a safe usually knocking the OB near the side pocket
on the side away from your pocket. Trying not to leave a long straight back or a three railer towards his pocket.

I used to play this a lot at Chelsea Billiards in NYC against Teddy The Greek. I don't know where the first 3 or so posters are getting the rules they mentioned but that doesn't sound anything like One Ball One Pocket.
 
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