One Pocket Bug, bit me hard

BPG24 said:
Any suggestions on how to switch my mind back into offense after I have played safe 12 times in a row?

Off to work, someone please talk about this subject a little.

Thanks
 
1 hoe is cool, i awalys said "i'll save it for later when i'm old and broken down" that day is rapidly approaching.:(


its a great game, perhaps the best action game in pool, but wow there is alot to learn. I forgot most of what I knew about 1 hole and play terrible 1 hole when I do play it.
 
I'm also just starting to learn this great game. In just a few weeks of lessons from a fairly good 1p player, I'm starting to get a few games from him here and there. At first, he could fire at anything he wanted for most of the game, now when he does it and misses, I make him pay :D .

I'm also impressed by how much it's helping my 9ball and 8ball games. I can't even count how many times I've walked to the table and didn't like the shot I was facing, so I just sent the object ball to the other end of the table and glued the cue ball to the center of short rail. It's such a routine shot in 1p that I don't have any trouble doing it any more.

It's really an excellent game, and I can't wait to learn as much about it as I can.
 
BPG24 said:
Off to work, someone please talk about this subject a little.

Thanks


I don't know if it will help you or not, but I find that if I'm playing a safe, I need to shoot exactly the same way as if I was pocketing a ball.

If I just pick an angle for the object ball and just focus on the cue ball, I have a harder time making shots when I get an offensive chance.

When I play a 1p safe I go through my whole preshot routine, find my target for the object ball, find the contact point on the object ball, then shot the ball the same was as if I was trying to pocket it in an imaginary pocket while controlling the cue ball. If I play my safes that way, it's a lot easier for me to run a few balls when I get the chance.

Hope that helps.
 
BPG24 said:
So i went into the local Pool room today to hit some balls and no one was there but the guy working the counter and me. We start talking and playing a little 9 ball and he asks me if I play 1 pocket.

I tell him not much but the game does interest me alot. He talks me into playing some 1 hole and by the 3rd game I was hooked. Now, I have played 1 hole maybe 20 times before but never really tried to learn anything while playing. I have read a few books and watched many accu stat tapes of great players.

Since the strengths of my 8/9/10 ball games is cue ball control, safeties, and pin pointing my opponents strengths/weaknesses, I have been told many times that I should take up 1 pocket. Many have said that if i did, that i might never play 9 ball again. After playing for about 2 hours today, I must admit that these guys may be right. 1 hole is a much better game, i thoroughly enjoyed thinking about all the possibilities on each shot and predicting them before I made a decision.

Even watching the pros play never got me to realize how important each and every decision is and that each decision makes such a huge impact on the next. I guess what I am saying is that this is exactly what I needed to get me back into playing pool again. There is nothing like the feeling of a new challenge if you know what I mean.


Goodbye to the boring repetition of 9 ball and hello to the new adventure that is 1 hole :eek:

That happened to me a few years ago. I don't get to play as much pool as I used to (any kind) but I really only want to play one pocket... all the time. It's just such a great game.

I look at people like they have three ears when they tell me they don't like the game. I know I'll get crap for this but I honestly think a bit less of them (as pool players) for not liking it! I guess I'm turning into a one pocket snob.
 
BPG24 said:
Off to work, someone please talk about this subject a little.

Thanks

It is the nature of the one pocket game that a shot that you would take on naturally in 9 ball, you might avoid in one pocket. I feel that there is a greater amount of "risk/reward" in one pocket. When going on offense, it is critical to assess the most likely outcome. for instance, if you are only 70% on a shot, and if you miss you might sell out several balls, you might weigh the "risk/reward" of shooting that shot. Shotmaking in general goes down when playing one pocket.

Lastly, you might be surprised how moving a ball toward your pocket on occasion, can actually be better than making a ball in your pocket. Find a great one pocket player to educate you.

Regards,

Doug
 
One hole is the best pocket billiard game there is.

It's the only game that you can play for hours and carry on a conversation without ever saying a word.
 
dabarbr said:
One Pocket-It's the only game that you can play for hours and carry on a conversation without ever saying a word.


Hmmm, I might want to add that to my email sig. Who do I credit for that quote?
 
Alex Kanapilly said:
That happened to me a few years ago. I don't get to play as much pool as I used to (any kind) but I really only want to play one pocket... all the time. It's just such a great game.

I look at people like they have three ears when they tell me they don't like the game. I know I'll get crap for this but I honestly think a bit less of them (as pool players) for not liking it! I guess I'm turning into a one pocket snob.
You'll just have to look down on me, because i'd rather have a dead rat in my mouth than play one pocket! Sorry guys I just don't see the appeal. It is great for action, but even when I'm winning, I'm bored outta my mind!
One day I was playing this guy $300 a game, I'm up six games, and if you looked at me slumped over in my chair, you would've thought my dog had just died!
Jeremy
 
instroke75 said:
You'll just have to look down on me, because i'd rather have a dead rat in my mouth than play one pocket! Sorry guys I just don't see the appeal. It is great for action, but even when I'm winning, I'm bored outta my mind!
One day I was playing this guy $300 a game, I'm up six games, and if you looked at me slumped over in my chair, you would've thought my dog had just died!
Jeremy

That's what I'm talking about, we just don't understand each other I guess. I had no interest in the game for the first 15 years or so that I played pool but once I started playing it I fell in love with it. You play it but still don't like it, inconceivable! ;)
 
Blackjack said:
Stop by Clicks South or Jimmy's and you'll find some people that will play some one hole. Also up in your neck of the woods you have Adam Wheeler who is an excellent player - he's also extremely knowledgeable at one pocket.


I've played some One Pocket with Adam a few times, and seen him play a few more. Excellent player as you said.
 
MinoInADixeCup said:
I don't know if it will help you or not, but I find that if I'm playing a safe, I need to shoot exactly the same way as if I was pocketing a ball.

If I just pick an angle for the object ball and just focus on the cue ball, I have a harder time making shots when I get an offensive chance.

When I play a 1p safe I go through my whole preshot routine, find my target for the object ball, find the contact point on the object ball, then shot the ball the same was as if I was trying to pocket it in an imaginary pocket while controlling the cue ball. If I play my safes that way, it's a lot easier for me to run a few balls when I get the chance.

Hope that helps.


Thank you very much for the suggestion, I will try that next time I play.
 
BPG24 said:
Thank you very much for the suggestion, I will try that next time I play.
Hey congrats on getting hooked on the best game. Dont forget to visit onepocket.org........................
 
BPG24 said:
Any suggestions on how to switch my mind back into offense after I have played safe 12 times in a row?

If you concentrate as much on where to hit the ball when playing safeties as you do when pocketing a ball, then you should be able to stay in stroke. I think that when playing safety after safety (12 in a row is not a lot in this game by the way) you start to only think about the side of the ball to hit and only generally about how thick to hit it. This is because there is a lot of leeway in how you hit a lot of safeties with it still working whereas a pocket doesn't move and is only so big and therefore less forgiving.

I think if you try to tighten up your safety play so that it requires more accuracy of hit you will find yourself staying in stroke. For example:
  • Don't try to hide your opponent behind a ball, try to freeze the cue ball on it.
  • When sending the cue ball away from the field of battle don't just try to get distance, try to freeze him on the rail.
  • When banking a ball from your opponents side into the stack have an exact idea of what ball you want to hit in the stack and why.
  • Likewise for kicks. Know exactly where you want to hit the ball your kicking at (or where you want the cue ball to stop when taking a scratch).
  • Most importantly, on all safeties you play find the exact spot on the OB you want to hit and go through your normal routine to execute it. I think the most common violation here is that a lot of people stop getting down completely into their stance when playing safe causing thier fundamentals to break down over the course of a game/session.

By changing your safety play from just trying to keep your opponent from making a ball to being more exact so that he is prevented from replying I think you will be able to maintain the precision you need to pocket balls when the opportunity finally presents itself.
 
Never been a One Pocket fan...

I've never really cared much for one pocket ... I remember as a teenager I use to go the old pool room in Hemet Ca and try to hustle the old men playing golf on the big snooker table... To me that was alot of fun but then they would break off into One pocket and I would lose intrest and move on ... Golf taught me how to control my cue ball and the snooker table taught to aim at a section of the pocket instead of just a big hole... And those old men taught me alot about respect and life and that your never to old to enjoy pool...

But much like you the strength of my game is my stroke and my control of the Cue ball they go hand in hand .. It has been awhile but maybe I should reconsider One pocket ...lol at 48 it won't be long till I'm one of the old men waiting on some young teen to come in and try to hustle me...
 
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jjr183 said:
If you concentrate as much on where to hit the ball when playing safeties as you do when pocketing a ball, then you should be able to stay in stroke. I think that when playing safety after safety (12 in a row is not a lot in this game by the way) you start to only think about the side of the ball to hit and only generally about how thick to hit it. This is because there is a lot of leeway in how you hit a lot of safeties with it still working whereas a pocket doesn't move and is only so big and therefore less forgiving.

I think if you try to tighten up your safety play so that it requires more accuracy of hit you will find yourself staying in stroke. For example:
  • Don't try to hide your opponent behind a ball, try to freeze the cue ball on it.
  • When sending the cue ball away from the field of battle don't just try to get distance, try to freeze him on the rail.
  • When banking a ball from your opponents side into the stack have an exact idea of what ball you want to hit in the stack and why.
  • Likewise for kicks. Know exactly where you want to hit the ball your kicking at (or where you want the cue ball to stop when taking a scratch).
  • Most importantly, on all safeties you play find the exact spot on the OB you want to hit and go through your normal routine to execute it. I think the most common violation here is that a lot of people stop getting down completely into their stance when playing safe causing thier fundamentals to break down over the course of a game/session.

By changing your safety play from just trying to keep your opponent from making a ball to being more exact so that he is prevented from replying I think you will be able to maintain the precision you need to pocket balls when the opportunity finally presents itself.


I really appreciate the advice. :)
 
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