one pocket question

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What do you do if someone is sporting someone 9-8 in one pocket and you forget to spot the extra ball and you get close to the end of the game and someone that is not in the game says you forget to spot the ball from the beginning of the game
 
I would calmly ask if he had video evidence to back up the observation and if not that he needs to keep his mouth shut and mind his own business.:D
 
What do you do if someone is sporting someone 9-8 in one pocket and you forget to spot the extra ball and you get close to the end of the game and someone that is not in the game says you forget to spot the ball from the beginning of the game

what you are talking about happens very much while playing 1pocket(MAYBE ALL EXCEPT THE OUTSIDER CHIMING IN)if both players get to talking and both agree that a ball was not spotted,then they would spot the ball.
 
What do you do if someone is sporting someone 9-8 in one pocket and you forget to spot the extra ball and you get close to the end of the game and someone that is not in the game says you forget to spot the ball from the beginning of the game

what dippy says +

From the Official onepocket.org rules


9.4 If any owed balls, or balls that have fallen into a neutral pocket are forgotten and later remembered, then instead of being spotted after the current shooter’s inning, they are spotted after the end of the next player’s inning, unless there are no balls left on the table, in which case they are all spotted immediately. In any case, any owed balls are not forgiven, but still must be paid.

In practice, forgotten balls may be spotted at any time after they are remembered, as long as both players agree on the timing; if either player objects to an earlier spotting, then rule 9.4 should be followed.

Please note that playing ‘snooze you lose’ is the rare exception in house rules; it is by no means the standard rule, and it should only be accepted when it is clearly and mutually agreed on by both players before play begins.
 
As Dippy said the first order of the day is to bee-atch slap the idiot on the rail. In real life most experienced 1pocket players know you should always discuss a few things before you flip the coin, if you haven't played your opponent before:

How to handle "sleepers." Yes, I know what the rules are but there are some hardcore cases that play "You snooze, you lose."

Whether you're playing "three fouls." Once again, the rules are clear on this, but especially some old-timers will not play this way.

And whether you're playing base of the ball or whole ball for the CB and OB.

Then you flip the coin.

Lou Figueroa
 
The way I usually play, and I think I got it from Winning One Pocket, is that after the discovery, each player gets one full inning and the forgotten ball is spotted at the end of the second full turn. The idea is to make sure that both players have had a chance to prepare for the return of the ball.

Example: I'm shooting and have made a ball and am looking at safety options. My opponent says, "We forgot to spot the one I made in the side." I finish my safety, he takes his turn, I take my turn, and then we spot the ball from the side pocket.

Or if both agree, spot it earlier.
 
The way I usually play, and I think I got it from Winning One Pocket, is that after the discovery, each player gets one full inning and the forgotten ball is spotted at the end of the second full turn. The idea is to make sure that both players have had a chance to prepare for the return of the ball.

Example: I'm shooting and have made a ball and am looking at safety options. My opponent says, "We forgot to spot the one I made in the side." I finish my safety, he takes his turn, I take my turn, and then we spot the ball from the side pocket.

Or if both agree, spot it earlier.

Wow, that's making things complicated. After he shoots is plenty of time.
I cant figure out why to wait another shot ? :o
Rod.
 
Depends on the gamble in you also.

If his nose is bleeding, and he owes the ball... my loss. He doesn't have to spot the ball, unless it is an advantage to him.

If I am losing, I am at the mercy of my opponent. Arguing will only make it worse for me and give the advantage to my opponent.

He might pull up, then I have no chance to win anything back and/or never play the guy again.
 
What does this mean?

I'm assuming this is a serious question and answering accordingly. He's talking about shooting a ball with ball in hand behind the line.

Some people play if the base of the object ball (only spot touching the table) is past the line/kitchen then it is a legal ball to shoot. Others play the entire ball has to be past the line to be a legal ball to hit.

The opposite for the cueball. When shooting the cueball with BIH from behind the line, the CB either has to be all the way behind the line or just the base has to be behind the line.
 
Wow, that's making things complicated. After he shoots is plenty of time.
I cant figure out why to wait another shot ? :o
Rod.

Because spotting the ball up immediately could favor one player over the other. If you give each player an inning, they can prepare for the spotted ball(s).
 
Wow, that's making things complicated. After he shoots is plenty of time.
I cant figure out why to wait another shot ? :o
Rod.
As JoeyA said, so the players can prepare. At one pocket, the players often consider the positions of every ball on the table when planning the current shot. A ball alone on the spot can be a huge difference from no ball on the spot or two balls on the spot. If both players agree, the ball can be spotted early.
 
I'm assuming this is a serious question and answering accordingly. He's talking about shooting a ball with ball in hand behind the line.

Some people play if the base of the object ball (only spot touching the table) is past the line/kitchen then it is a legal ball to shoot. Others play the entire ball has to be past the line to be a legal ball to hit.

The opposite for the cueball. When shooting the cueball with BIH from behind the line, the CB either has to be all the way behind the line or just the base has to be behind the line.

Thank you, I've never had it really come up but I've always assumed the whole ball must be over the line. I wouldn't even try to shoot a ball that the whole ball was not over the line. If someone tried the "base of the ball" thing, i would assume they think their in a bad game and need that to win, in that case, go a head.
 
cleary,

I've found that a lot players still ask that question. Base of the ball, or, whole ball?

Gamblers usually play 'whole ball'. Tournament rules, it has been 'base of the ball' for more than 30 years that I know of.

I didn't know of base of the ball until I started playing tournaments and leagues in the late 70s.

Thank you, I've never had it really come up but I've always assumed the whole ball must be over the line. I wouldn't even try to shoot a ball that the whole ball was not over the line. If someone tried the "base of the ball" thing, i would assume they think their in a bad game and need that to win, in that case, go a head.
 
I'm assuming this is a serious question and answering accordingly. He's talking about shooting a ball with ball in hand behind the line.

Some people play if the base of the object ball (only spot touching the table) is past the line/kitchen then it is a legal ball to shoot. Others play the entire ball has to be past the line to be a legal ball to hit.

The opposite for the cueball. When shooting the cueball with BIH from behind the line, the CB either has to be all the way behind the line or just the base has to be behind the line.


Tank you berry much.

Lou Figueroa
what he said
 
As JoeyA said, so the players can prepare. At one pocket, the players often consider the positions of every ball on the table when planning the current shot. A ball alone on the spot can be a huge difference from no ball on the spot or two balls on the spot. If both players agree, the ball can be spotted early.


One udder thing you learn playing 1pocket is to be *real* picky about spotting balls accurately. You'd be amazed how often that ball or two spotted on the spot correctly can make a difference.

Lou Figueroa
 
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