One-Pocket Situation

I can't tell from the diagram what the numbers on the balls are, but I would thin off the ball at the bottom of the stack,rail first into the 8 and leave whitey around the first diamond on his side, hiding the 2 balls close to your pocket.
 
longhair said:
Y'all might think I'm crazy, but I like jumping into the 8 and taking the CB either up the rail or into the stack, depending on whether that carom goes for him.
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As long as you jump well with a full cue...at least around here there are no jump cues in one pocket.

Cory
 
kyle said:
I like banking the one, maybe aiming fat so it goes off the 10/15 and ensuring I say in the stack with the cue ball.
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My thoughts, exactly. If the one ball gets banked towards your pocket, you will likely lose the cue ball. But if you bank it toward the 10/15, you could easily send snowy into the stack. If the one happens to caroms off either or both balls into your pocket, you're on your way out.

Sir kyle, I have to think you're a real good player.
 
Aaron_S said:
Your pocket is A (top); what shot(s) do you like, or dislike the least, from here?

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An aggressive shot would be to hit the 4-14 combination back into your own 10-ball, trying to make it. It's a fairly high percentage shot, and if the 10 goes, you'll get 3-4 more balls. Leaving him the 8 is not that bad, since he can only get the single ball, and there will be more stuff in front of your hole.

A conservative play would be to roll the CB in between the 7 and 9, taking an intentional scratch. It would then be tricky for him to get out of that without leaving some kind of shot to your hole.

Doc
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gulfportdoc said:
An aggressive shot would be to hit the 4-14 combination back into your own 10-ball, trying to make it. It's a fairly high percentage shot, and if the 10 goes, you'll get 3-4 more balls. Leaving him the 8 is not that bad, since he can only get the single ball, and there will be more stuff in front of your hole.
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That's the shot I ended up taking, and my reasoning was pretty much the same as yours. I did try to hit the 4 as far to the right (from shooters perspective) as possible, thinking that it would increase the chances of the 14 ball either: a)catching a small sliver of the 8, and then heading back to my side; b)missing the 8 but making the 10 cleanly; c)missing the 8 and glancing off of the 15 to make the 10. The 10 ended up going cleanly, and I was able to pick up the loose ones before giving up the 8. Might not have shot it that way if the pockets were tighter or if the game was more meaningful, but it was just a league match, and, like you said, I didn't figure to sell out the entire game even if the shot went badly.
 
VIProfessor said:
Please excuse my ignorance, but I don't really play one-hole and and I'm asking questions so I can learn more about the game.

If I give him the eight as you describe, won't his response be to play a combination bank sending the fifteen towards his hole, moving the 10 away from the pocket, and leaving me by my hole? It seems that I'm giving him the ball without getting anything in return. If I bank the one ball towards my hole and freeze him to the rack he can blast away, but with a huge penalty if he misses. Also, I'm thinking that if I can freeze him good enough, he'll be blocked from banking my balls away from my hole!
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making the 8 is going to play a longer-term benefit. I think a good player would go off the 11, into bottom rail, making the 8 and bringing the CB uptable a few inches from the pocket.
Edit: I see I am not the first to come up w/ this option!
 
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Tennesseejoe said:
I would play the 9 ball 2 rails and bury the cue ball in the stack. This would have to be hit easy so the cue ball would not disturb the rack. The 9 ball might not go all of three rails due to the soft hit.
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Ducking on the wrong side of the stack will get you busted in short order...DON'T DO IT...EVER! Your opponent will typically push more balls to his side on the next shot and leave you trapped within or on top of the balls.

In response to your suggested shot, I would do the following (see link below) with relative ease...who knows what sort of damage the 1 will do when it hits that stack!

http://CueTable.com/P/?@3AVRL4BCpI3...uY1kGbk1kbPF3kcHU3kTxI3qfSxA&ZZ1tfjP00/00&ZZ@
 
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cuetable said:
First of all, I appreciate you guys still enjoying WeiTable. I encourage you to take a look of the same layout on CueTable
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After a little bit of mucking around with it, I really like the CueTable better.

That being said, I like the bank on the 1 myself, the more I play one pocket the more I see that often the more aggresive(but not less cautious) player wins more often than not.
 
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Not being much of a 1p player, I'd combo the 14 into the 8, hitting the top edge and letting the 14 go back across the table maybe making one of the balls near the pocket. Stop the cue ball with a little right english to help the 14 flatten out, maybe draw an inch or two. 4 goes up table, no bank left, and if you make one of the balls you have another shot.
 
It depends!

It depends on who you are playing.
It depends on how much you are playing for.
It depends on how the money stands.
It depends on how well your opponet is playing.
It depends on how well you are playing.
All previous suggestions are possible however I like two railing the one leaving opponent up table on end rail even if you miss the 1 it will be in front of your hole with the penalty of a miss hit eight very costly. Hell, give him the blood test. You could also two rail kick the eight and if successful leave nothing. I also if feeling good play the combinatiom bank
4-14 I believe. The question is do you "duck" or do you shoot at your man.
In one pocket you are usually faced with several shots which do you feel more comfortable "executing". I might even take an intentional scratch up to the corner on my side as close to the end rail as possible so he can't do much with the eight.
 
RayDM said:
I like shooting the 15 rail first to make the 8 firm. 15 will go up table. put a hair follow on the cueball and leave on bottom rail at middle diamond. 10ball looks too close to rail for a bank.
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It would seem that you would not want to leave the cue ball so low. The return would bank the 10 into the 4 and the cue ball 2 rails into the side of the rack. The 14 rolls over in front of the pocket and your in a more difficult spot.
 
cuttyshark said:
Offensively, banking the one back - If you think you can draw whitey into the stack without unsettling it much, but, depending on your leave luck, he may still be able to blast everything away from your hole.
Else, I’d try to give him the eight...
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Efren shot the same or similar shot on Cliff in the 1p finals at DCC. Stuck Cliff on the ball on his side of the rack, made the bank and ran out (IIRC).
 
bankshots said:
It depends on who you are playing.
It depends on how much you are playing for.
It depends on how the money stands.
It depends on how well your opponet is playing.
It depends on how well you are playing.
All previous suggestions are possible however I like two railing the one leaving opponent up table on end rail even if you miss the 1 it will be in front of your hole with the penalty of a miss hit eight very costly. Hell, give him the blood test. You could also two rail kick the eight and if successful leave nothing. I also if feeling good play the combinatiom bank
4-14 I believe. The question is do you "duck" or do you shoot at your man.
In one pocket you are usually faced with several shots which do you feel more comfortable "executing". I might even take an intentional scratch up to the corner on my side as close to the end rail as possible so he can't do much with the eight.
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I completely agree with you that the "right" shot depends on many variables that we have not been given. I think that with a few exceptions, all of the suggestions made so far are viable options. The 3 I would most likely look at would be the 3 rail kick at the 8, the bank combo, or the 1 ball bank drawing into the stack.

The one suggestion I really did not agree with was the intentional scratch rolling betwen the 7&9. I have no problem with an intentional, but that shot gives the opponent an opportunity to put you in an even worse trap, like frozen to the 10 and the rail for instance.
 
Jump it!.. make the 8, thin, and the cue tucks behind/around the 14 / the rest of the stack. :-)

..... what!?
 
Deadon said:
Efren shot the same or similar shot on Cliff in the 1p finals at DCC. Stuck Cliff on the ball on his side of the rack, made the bank and ran out (IIRC).
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OK, but those balls next to our hole do not go.

So, the idea is to bank the one gently, draw the cue to the wrong side of the stack (so as to not open anything up), carom the one off the two balls next to our hole, and proceed to run out?

It seems like if you miss the one, you are hoping to get safe (maybe froze to a ball in the stack), and if you make the one, you are hoping to make a few more balls. While I have shot these "either/or" shots before, it is not the best plan. Especially, if neither of the scenarios plays out.

Not saying I would shoot, just if you do shoot the one, shoot it to run some balls.
 
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