One-Pocket Situation

[Russ Chewning]

I had suggested earlier to carom off the 9 and pocket the 5.....leaving the 9 on the rail...

The system you described is perfect for aiming to pocket the 5.

Hitting the correct speed would remove the 9-ball bank, and leave a tough bank on the 12 without assitance from the 5 ball making the pocket bigger...

If the player then pulls of the bank on the 12....(they probably deserved to win that game)

just a thought...

Holy Moly! I never even thought of that! I don't like trying to make the 5, though. If you can pocket the 5 though, this would definitely be the situation to try it, as right now, yer in a hurt locker.

If one was to try to die on the rail right behind the 5, and were able to beat the kiss, this might be the result:

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Pros:

1. Removes the 9 from being bankable.

2. Breaks up the combo aimed at the 5.

3. Gets behind the 5 reliably and prevents opponent from putting you up table. (If you can avoid the kiss)

4. The balls moved from the combo might block all bank paths to your opponent's pocket.

Cons:

1. Moves balls closer to your opponent's pocket.

2. If you don't get the cue ball close to the 5, your opponent may be able to get you to the other side of the stack.

All in all, I think this is a decent option for someone who can execute it. Everything hinges on beating the kiss from the 9 ball coming back off the rail. It stops you from losing the game immediately, and at this point, this might be the most you can hope for in this situation.

It really would depend on how I felt, and my opponent's skill level, as to whether I try this shot or not. I think this shot might even be in Winning One Pocket or SMAS.. I don't have my copies here, so I can't check..

Let me know what you think, everyone..

edit: Looking at the diagram closer, I don't like where the cue ball ends up.. All sorts of options for the opponent. I like the follow/carom to pocket the 5, but I think the kiss is on, because you have to hit the 9 thinner...


Russ

 

[wayne]

The 14, 10, 13 combination looks close to dead. All you need to do is hit it with the right speed and make the 13 and run out. End of problem.

 

[Aaron_S]

The 14, 10, 13 combination looks close to dead. All you need to do is hit it with the right speed and make the 13 and run out. End of problem.

Yeah, I noticed that when I was looking at options from the top of the stack. Looks like the 13 has a chance to either go cleanly, or in off the 11 depending on the angle you hit the 14 from. Good observation, Wayne.

Aaron

 

[Russ Chewning]

The 14, 10, 13 combination looks close to dead. All you need to do is hit it with the right speed and make the 13 and run out. End of problem.

Which at this angle, is pretty close to Bustamente's break speed. One thing is for certain.. Every ball on the table will likely get moved...

LOL

Russ

 

[wayne]

Which at this angle, is pretty close to Bustamente's break speed. One thing is for certain.. Every ball on the table will likely get moved...

LOL

Russ

That's why you are on the Short Bus. (deleted rest because posted twice)

 

[wayne]

Which at this angle, is pretty close to Bustamente's break speed. One thing is for certain.. Every ball on the table will likely get moved...

LOL

Russ

That's why you are on the Short Bus. The 14 and 10 are frozen it appears. So the only use of speed is to determine the amount of throw needed. It could be medium, medium-hard, or hard. I set it up and made it with medium speed half ball hit on the 14 ball (first and only try). The cueball is further up table than the frozen balls so it isn't a break speed hit.

 

[Russ Chewning]

That's why you are on the Short Bus. The 14 and 10 are frozen it appears. So the only use of speed is to determine the amount of throw needed. It could be medium, medium-hard, or hard. I set it up and made it with medium speed half ball hit on the 14 ball (first and only try). The cueball is further up table than the frozen balls so it isn't a break speed hit.

So.. How much can I get spotted, and for how much?



edit: The reason I need to get spotted is because I could SWEAR the 14-10-13 is aimed at the left side of the pocket (yet I am sure you set it up as dead-ass straight..), and at the thin angle you are cutting the 14, you are throwing the 10 even further to the right, cutting the 13 even MORE to the left. See, I need a spot, because I'm thinking you froze the 6 to the 14 to get a nice medium speed hit to go..

THAT's why I'm on the short bus and need a spot. So what are you giving up, wayne/Efren?

Russ

 

[wayne]

So.. How much can I get spotted, and for how much?



edit: The reason I need to get spotted is because I could SWEAR the 14-10-13 is aimed at the left side of the pocket (yet I am sure you set it up as dead-ass straight..), and at the thin angle you are cutting the 14, you are throwing the 10 even further to the right, cutting the 13 even MORE to the left. See, I need a spot, because I'm thinking you froze the 6 to the 14 to get a nice medium speed hit to go..

THAT's why I'm on the short bus and need a spot. So what are you giving up, wayne/Efren?

Russ

You would have to come to Los Angeles to play but I will give you 10-7 and the breaks 6 ahead for $2000.