One Pocket - what do you do?

wincardona said:
I totally disagree with shooting the 3 ball up table, your position is too strong to play that timid non productive shot. Sorry Bruce.
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Well, here we go again....It's so annoying having your judgements taken out of context....

If you go back and read my first post, the reason I chose my shot instead of the combination is because in the diagram it looks like the 2 ball might catch the pocket points......If I was assured by the original poster that he set up the 2 ball so that it doesn't hit the pocket points, then I would also shoot the combo bank shot....

As for my shot being non-productive - you are dead wrong, and I'm truly amazed that you said that.....The productivity of my shot is that I remove the 3 ball - the most makeable ball for him, put the 3 in a good-makeable position for me, leave him on the rail making it difficult for him to execute his next shot, and psychologically he now knows I'm not going to help him breathe, while I have my 4 ball lead......All of that is production.
 
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1 Pocket Ghost said:
Well, here we go again....It's so annoying having your judgements taken out of context....

If you go back and read my first post, the reason I chose my shot instead of the combination is because in the diagram it looks like the 2 ball might catch the pocket points......If I was assured by the original poster that he set up the 2 ball so that it doesn't hit the pocket points, then I would also shoot the combo bank shot....

As for my shot being non-productive - you are dead wrong, and I'm truly amazed that you said that.....The productivity of my shot is that I remove the 3 ball - the most makeable ball for him, put the 3 in a good-makeable position for me, leave him on the rail making it difficult for him to execute his next shot, and psychologically he now knows I'm not going to help him breathe, while I have my 4 ball lead......All of that is production.
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Bruce if you opt to shoot the 3 ball you will have to shoot it with the bridge ,and you will also be shooting over balls,frankly I don't like your chances of controlling the cue ball off of that shot. You will surely lose your position and will give your opponent the first move to reverse the position. I would thin hit the twelve sending the cue ball up table as my second choice,keeping pressure on my opponent.Shooting the 3 gives my opponent too many options.
 
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wincardona said:
By the way,the stronger your opponent is the more this is the right shot,playing a weaker player you might consider playing an up table game to protect your lead.Keep in mind playing world class players leading 4 to 0 with balls down table is very deceiving, it's not nearly as big of a lead as you may think.How many times have you lost against world class players leading 4 to 0 ? Keep the pressure on,you'll do better.
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More sage advice from an all time great. Are you writing this shit down? You should be!

T-Rex played me 8-4 and a couple of games I had him 3-0 and decided to get cute. He ran eight and out both times. 300 a pop too!
 
Bob Jewett said:
Hit the 5 ball about 2/3 ball on the right side. Float the cue ball to the side cushion a diamond and a half below the side pocket -- directly in the line of the 12-8. The goal is to move the 2 and/or 3 to your pocket and not allow your opponent to see the 12 or any direct path to a ball in your pocket.
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I would have to agree with this as well. When I posted, my thought was putting them on the end rail may entice them to do something stupid and try to play the 14. Leaving the cue ball by the side pocket is definitely a better move, since only an idiot would try to play the 14, although I have seen some people try even worse shots, which would simply indicate a severe lack of understanding of the game.
 
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Kiss?

Am I the only one who thinks the 2 will kiss the 5 if you shoot the combo bank? It looks unavoidable to me. It may still be a good shot, but I don't think it's likely that balls will end up near the bottom left corner.

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If you leave him near the cushion below his side pocket, the 8, 4-9 combo, 14, 13, and perhaps even the 5 will bank into or very near the opponents pocket. I would prefer not let him shoot any of these shots. You stick him behind those balls, and you may just win the game outright next inning.

Based on my limited experience leaving those kind of banks is often the kiss of death against strong bankers...let alone 4 of them for him to choose from. There is a win sitting here for him if he makes a bank.

I do like leaving him on that cushion, but I think it introduces an element of risk that is avoidable without reducing the offensive effectiveness of the shot. I'd rather him try to slice that 5 ball in jacked up over the stack with 3 balls in front of my hole.
 
Franky said:
If you leave him near the cushion below his side pocket, the 8, 4-9 combo, 14, 13, and perhaps even the 5 will bank into or very near the opponents pocket. I would prefer not let him shoot any of these shots. You stick him behind those balls, and you may just win the game outright next inning.

Based on my limited experience leaving those kind of banks is often the kiss of death against strong bankers...let alone 4 of them for him to choose from. There is a win sitting here for him if he makes a bank.

I do like leaving him on that cushion, but I think it introduces an element of risk that is avoidable without reducing the offensive effectiveness of the shot. I'd rather him try to slice that 5 ball in jacked up over the stack with 3 balls in front of my hole.
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I agree with at least part of your post. Leaving open banks is the reason I wanted to take the CB higher with combination bank. I still like ticking the 13 and going to the stack best if I need to win. with that one I can depend on getting him really stuck to the balls, which I can't depend on with a draw stroke off the 5.
 
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