Cameron Smith said:y'know the problem with internet forums are two fold. 1. anyone can post anything. 2. you can't truly know who people are in many situations.
I can post "Scott Smith recently had a blow out with Barry Berhman over alligations of match fixing. He told me that he was done with the US Open". This is an entirely untrue story, however it suggests "insider information". Had it been posted as truth by someone else, an unknown, it would have started a multi page thread (like this one) with people debating it's validity (as people are here).
As for this Big Money dude, I will believe the information if I hear it confirmed by someone I know to be credible. That this person posted these accusations a few days ago and leaves us to speculate doesn't say much.
Cameron Smith said:I will believe the information if I hear it confirmed by someone I know to be credible.
In reading Big Money's posting yet again, there appears to me to be a lot of embellishment in Big Money's posting.Eydie Romano said:Timberly has confirmed most of what "Big Money" has said. I personally would believe anything that Timberly told me and put her name on. She would not risk putting her name on something that was not true.
PoolSharkAllen said:In reading Big Money's posting yet again, there appears to me to be a lot of embellishment in Big Money's posting.![]()
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Has Timberly or anyone else confirmed whether the following summary statement that Big Money made is credible? "The ITP is full of crooks. Be forwarned people, Mr Trudeau is known for his scams, this is just one of them."
In the context of all the money the players have made over the past year, it doesn't appear to me that the IPT is a scam that is full of crooks. Big Money's summary statement is simply not credible.
IMO, all things considered, the IPT has been one of the best things to come down the pike in quite a while. Obviously, many mistakes were made over the past year, but hopefully the IPT and the players will learn from them and strive to do better.
Big Money said:Mr. Sigel and Mr. Trudeau, we all know that your have your hands in this pot with Mr. Trainer. We all know that YOU own a percentage of the players who were so eager to sign before they considered the consequences of the contact they signed with you. In some states it would be called racketeering.
onepocketchump said:And, a promise IS a contract. Since Kevin is the founder of the IPT and Deno is the CEO, they are both liable for promises that they made which resulted in monetary outlay by people based on those promises. This includes the players, the backers, the room owners.
John Barton
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I've been thinking the very same thing. Seems it would be very simple for Deno to set the record straight. I guess he has his own reasons for not doing so. I just can't imagine why he doesn't because Deno is well respected here.Craig Fales said:In all this speculation I find it interesting that Deno or any others directly involved with the IPT never seem to come forward and put and end to all the controversy before it spirals out of control...
Agreed. Most good business managers that I know of try to keep their employees in the loop, so that gossip and rumor-mongering doesn't get out-of-hand. KT and Deno have yet to learn that lesson.Craig Fales said:In all this speculation I find it interesting that Deno or any others directly involved with the IPT never seem to come forward and put and end to all the controversy before it spirals out of control...
Craig Fales said:In all this speculation I find it interesting that Deno or any others directly involved with the IPT never seem to come forward and put and end to all the controversy before it spirals out of control...
pooltchr said:Maybe they have more pressing issues to deal with.
Steve
skins said:John, a "promise" in not a contract. to have a contract there has to be a "meeting of the minds". if one party thinks the promise means one thing and the other thinks it means something else there's no contract. also you can promise someone anything and legally have no obligation to deliver. now if the promise is in writing that's a whole different story.
tsw_521 said:Lawyers working on contingency, hedge fund managers, and software consultancies aren't sports agents. You're comparing apples to oranges. The risk factors and level of involvement are entirely different. Trainer's deal isn't close to market.