open table foul question

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sneakynito

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i'm assuming this is not a foul - but if a table is open after an 8 ball break, you call and shoot at a stripe but completely miss the ball and the first ball that gets contacted is a solid instead, is that a foul or not? I would assume not since solid/stripe combos are legal on an open table. that correct?

what if you fail to contact any ball whatsoever? i figure that's a foul?
 
sneakynito said:
i'm assuming this is not a foul - but if a table is open after an 8 ball break, you call and shoot at a stripe but completely miss the ball and the first ball that gets contacted is a solid instead, is that a foul or not? I would assume not since solid/stripe combos are legal on an open table. that correct?

what if you fail to contact any ball whatsoever? i figure that's a foul?
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Which rule set are you playing by?

At one time that was a simpler question. Now we have Ultimate Pool, Blackball, Heyball, the other UK-based rule sets, APA, TAP, VNEA, The Dew Drop Inn rules, CSI, .... and maybe even the World Standardized Rules for 8-Ball.
 
Bob Jewett said:
Which rule set are you playing by?

At one time that was a simpler question. Now we have Ultimate Pool, Blackball, Heyball, the other UK-based rule sets, APA, TAP, VNEA, The Dew Drop Inn rules, CSI, .... and maybe even the World Standardized Rules for 8-Ball.
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That's a good question. Whatever BCA is i guess.
 
sneakynito said:
i'm assuming this is not a foul - but if a table is open after an 8 ball break, you call and shoot at a stripe but completely miss the ball and the first ball that gets contacted is a solid instead, is that a foul or not? I would assume not since solid/stripe combos are legal on an open table. that correct?

what if you fail to contact any ball whatsoever? i figure that's a foul?
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If you completely fail to hit a ball on an open table, you should quit worrying about the rules and just try to have fun.:)
 
easy-e said:
If you completely fail to hit a ball on an open table, you should quit worrying about the rules and just try to have fun.:)
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saw a guy do it this weekend playing against SVB. went for a super thin cut and ended up missing the ball all together. cueball ended up not hitting a single ball - which was impressive and i had not seen before, especially in barbox 8 ball.
that's what put the question(s) in my head though.
 
i had this exact mix up at end pocket lol, i thought hitting the solid first on an open table had to be a foul too. i have whiffed a super thin cut like that guy against svb and just watched the cue ball roll past everything. do you guys play it as ball in hand under bca when you miss everything like that
 
sneakynito said:
That's a good question. Whatever BCA is i guess.
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Well, then, you can hit any ball first except for the 8 ball. On an open table, it's allowed to play a mixed combination or carom, but not with the 8 first. But you could call the 7 and make a 13-8-7 combo, and that would be fine.

Actually, there is one situation on an open table when you are permitted to not only hit the 8 ball first, but to pocket it and win the game. If all of one group is off the table and the table is open, say someone makes seven solids on the break, then the shooter can claim the missing group, call the 8 ball, and pocket it for the win.
 
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