Optimal 3-ball break?

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When playing the break in 3-ball on a bartable do you guys know of any tips

on achieving a good break? Is there any way to read the rack looking for

gaps? I assume it becomes pretty simple when you know what to look for

only adjusting for 3 balls. There has to be a way to give you a higher

percentage of making a ball on the break instead of just smashing them. Just

looking for some advice to get me going in the right direction. This has

always been a good place to start.

Also, any tips regarding sixball? Would the same strategy you implement in your 9-ball break be applicable here?

I know what works for me but I was just trying to open my head up to some other strategies.

Not really anyone to learn from where I live in the woods. haha
 
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When playing the break in 3-ball on a bartable do you guys know of any tips

on achieving a good break? Is there any way to read the rack looking for

gaps? I assume it becomes pretty simple when you know what to look for

only adjusting for 3 balls. There has to be a way to give you a higher

percentage of making a ball on the break instead of just smashing them. Just

looking for some advice to get me going in the right direction. This has

always been a good place to start.

Also, any tips regarding sixball? Would the same strategy you implement in your 9-ball break be applicable here?

I know what works for me but I was just trying to open my head up to some other strategies.

Not really anyone to learn from where I live in the woods. haha
Any one who plays straight pool knows the shot where you can (Not advised low %)bank the corner ball on the break. In three ball if you are permitted to miss the front ball you can in the same way bank the corner ball two rails. It actually goes quite easily maybe a 20% shot and make the three balls in three shots.
 
JMO but real men play 3-ball with the balls racked in a straight line.:thumbup:
A triangle 3 ball game is just to easy.:p
 
Any one who plays straight pool knows the shot where you can (Not advised low %)bank the corner ball on the break. In three ball if you are permitted to miss the front ball you can in the same way bank the corner ball two rails. It actually goes quite easily maybe a 20% shot and make the three balls in three shots.

Could you elaborate a little on this technique?
 

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this is what i use when playing three ball i have a good % of making a ball while most of the time all three move within a diamond of a pocket

P.S i don't know if you can see it buy you want to nick the head ball before contacting the cornerball it has to be hit with a hard draw stroke or you will scratch in the corner
 
JMO but real men play 3-ball with the balls racked in a straight line.:thumbup:
A triangle 3 ball game is just to easy.:p

Maybe, but I've been playing since '61 or '62 and have never seen it played that way.
 
The head ball is playable in the opposite side from the breaker in any pool game, it just takes varying amounts of speed and draw, with a 7/8 full hit. (Depending on the number of balls in the rack, the table, etc.)
 
JMO but real men play 3-ball with the balls racked in a straight line.:thumbup:
A triangle 3 ball game is just to easy.:p


Your right about that. its the only way its played around here.

Any more ideas out there id like to hear em too. Making a ball on the break is key and i cant bring myself to practice 3ball. not with so much other stuff that i could be doing.
 
Try a One Pocket break

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this is what i use when playing three ball i have a good % of making a ball while most of the time all three move within a diamond of a pocket

P.S i don't know if you can see it buy you want to nick the head ball before contacting the cornerball it has to be hit with a hard draw stroke or you will scratch in the corner

Folks:

Along with the great suggestions posted by scottyr44, I'd like to offer the suggestion of trying a One Pocket break in Three Ball. In scottyr44's CueTable layout above, instead of using bottom-right (outside draw), try using top-left (inside follow) instead. Don't hit the rack hard, but hit it medium-soft speed. What will happen, when you get the speed and nick on the 1-ball right, is that:

1. The cue ball will nick the 1-ball and the 1-ball will in turn push the 6-ball rolling towards the bottom rail, towards about the first diamond. ("First diamond" is as you look at that bottom rail from the breaker's point of view, from left to right -- the diamond nearest the bottom-left corner pocket. "Bottom-left" is as viewed from the CueTable diagram -- the corner pocket that is the bottom-left of your computer screen.)

2. For a very short moment in time, the 6-ball will be rolling through the 5-ball's path into that same bottom-left corner pocket -- so, for a split second in time, you have a 5-6 combination lined-up into that bottom-left corner pocket.

3. As the cue ball caroms off the 1-ball, it will naturally hit the 5-ball next. If the speed is right (i.e. the 6-ball has rolled into the path of the 5-ball towards that bottom-left corner pocket), the cue ball's carom off the 5-ball will trigger a 5-6 combination into that bottom-left corner pocket.

4. If you don't make the 5-6 combination, as long as you didn't hit the rack too hard with the cue ball, you will have pushed all the balls towards that bottom-left corner pocket, with the cue ball sitting near (hopefully not "on") the long rail at the top of the screen, in direct line with that bottom-left corner pocket. Just pick-off the three balls, and at least you scored an easy "4". Once you get the speed "down" with this type of break, you can consistently score a "4" -- if not a "3" when a ball pockets into that bottom-left corner pocket -- every time during your turn at the table.

IMHO, I find this type of break much more consistent in offering me an easy "out" with a low number of strokes (4 or less), rather than smashing the rack and being forced into "cue ball heroics" to get from one shot to the next -- assuming you get a high-percentage/make-able shot after the break, that is, which is not always guaranteed!

P.S.: obviously, if you were breaking "towards" the other pocket (the top-left corner pocket as viewed from the CueTable diagram on your screen), you'd still use "inside follow" English, but in this case, that would mean "top right" English, and place the cue ball on the opposite side of the kitchen (bottom right as viewed from the CueTable diagram on your screen, near the head string).

P.P.S.: fellow One Pocket players will realize that the game of Three Ball offers a unique opportunity to fairly-reliably pocket a ball into that corner pocket, because you don't have the rest of the rack (the other 12 balls) butted-up against those three balls which would otherwise prevent this neat "carom combination" from happening. That's also perhaps why, as others have pointed out, the game of Three Ball is played with the three balls racked in a line, rather than a triangle, because a good One Pocket player can "ruin" (run away) with a triangle-racked Three Ball ring game. ;-)

Hope this is helpful,
-Sean
 
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REAL men!

JMO but real men play 3-ball with the balls racked in a straight line.:thumbup:
A triangle 3 ball game is just to easy.:p

REAL men play one pocket or straight pool...and sometimes rotation...golf (on the snooker table)... OK, OK, Ok.... never mind! I liked that post man, it got a laugh outta me! :grin:
 
Breaking 3-ball on a bar box depends a lot on the table. Fast, slow, good rails? I try and park the QB in the middle of the table get the head-ball going for the side pocket and the back two balls banking around the table w/o running into the QB or each other. If you get the two back balls going around the table, one will find a home in a pocket. If head ball goes in the side or top corner, that's a bonus. Johnnyt
 
If no point is set and you are going last (or close to last) break down the middle with a soft stroke with the sole intent of keeping that cue ball in the middle of the table. You almost always have a good setup shot after and can complete in 4 shots.

If the point is already set break as hard as you can and hope something goes in :D
 
Your right about that. its the only way its played around here.

Any more ideas out there id like to hear em too. Making a ball on the break is key and i cant bring myself to practice 3ball. not with so much other stuff that i could be doing.
Break head on when they are in a line. The back ball will rebound into the other two often driving a ball straight in a corner or side. Either way you get a lot more action.
 
If no point is set and you are going last (or close to last) break down the middle with a soft stroke with the sole intent of keeping that cue ball in the middle of the table. You almost always have a good setup shot after and can complete in 4 shots.

If the point is already set break as hard as you can and hope something goes in :D

We always played if one tied all tied and you double the bet. It is so easy to do it in four I have seen many games a $1.00 a game becomes $32 or $64 a man game.
 
We always played if one tied all tied and you double the bet. It is so easy to do it in four I have seen many games a $1.00 a game becomes $32 or $64 a man game.

Yes that's how we played for a buck or two a man. It's a fun game and really no really loses big money, but a winner can leave the game with a nice pay-day. Johnnyt
 
They had a 4 ball carnival game at Six Flags here about 8 years ago. All you had to do was break and shoot any ball, run out without missing.

The prize was a huge, at least 4 foot stuffed animal for $5.00 a try. We cleaned them out. :)

Needless to say, the next time we went back they had changed the rules to having to shoot them in order and gaffed the table so all the balls fell to the rails after the break. Most of the time, due to the table, you were left with no opening shot.
 
It's been a while since I've played 3 ball, we always would rack 3 in a triangle formation around the Chicago burbs. I was playing at a hall in Houston the first time I saw 3 in a line. I asked and they said it was way too easy to make a ball in with a triangle rack, how easy? 2 out of 5 for $20? I got the 20, but gave it back playing 3 ball in a line. Fun times.
 
We always played if one tied all tied and you double the bet. It is so easy to do it in four I have seen many games a $1.00 a game becomes $32 or $64 a man game.



We play one tie all tie but don't double the pot. Everyone does a re-ante. I agree that 4 is easy but I can't count how many times I have seen that be the winning number
 
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