Ortmann-More than a machine.

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His last 3 matches 100 and out, 100 and out and now that the race is to 150-he just went 150 and 0ut. Seems to me give him a month or so and he'd break mosconi's mark.
 
He played perfect at a perfect speed. The pockets could have been 4 inches as he hit every shot in the heart of the pocket. What a clinic.
 
That's almost unfathomable. Does anyone know if that's ever been done (or something similar to 3 consecutive outs)?

Wow, mad performance! :thumbup:
 
I love hearing Oliver is in stroke. He's my favorite male player. Will there be videos of these matches available?
 
Myk said:
I love hearing Oliver is in stroke. He's my favorite male player. Will there be videos of these matches available?
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Yes, I believe they said during the stream that the 150 & out run today by Oliver will be one of their (accu-stats.com) DVDs from this tournament and also that Ortmann had already agreed to come back on Sunday to do the player commentary on that DVD too.
 
JAW725 said:
I really want to see someone take down that record badly.
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It would be great to see someone make a run for the record but there will always be discrepancies as to what really is the record. There are practice high runs and exhibition high runs. Mosconi's 526 was an exhibition high run, probably more pressure to beat it when you have a crowd of onllookers watching and you're nearing the record, each ball at that point must be torture. Then there's practice high runs and even Mosconi himself ran a 598 and a 608 in practice but he doesn't seem to feel these were valid because they were just practice.
 
After beating Herring 150-0 yesterday, Herring makes it into todays round. Guess who he draws???? Ortman.
Herring breaks. Terrible break, but Ortman misses. Herring then makes 2 and misses. Ortman then runs 125.
Ortman won 200 to something like 89. If Ortman wins tonight he plays the winner of Immonen-Hohman tomorrow.
Ortman run ended when he broke but had no shot. While Ortman was running 125 Hohman was 2 tables away running 140. Same thing happend to him. Hohman ran 10 racks then breaks, but has so shot. He played a safety. Hohman beat Mike Davis 200 to something like 19.
 
Germany Rules ! :smile: Too bad Thorten lost to Mika... Final Oliver vs. Thorsten would have been the real deal !
 
Mr441 said:
It would be great to see someone make a run for the record but there will always be discrepancies as to what really is the record. There are practice high runs and exhibition high runs. Mosconi's 526 was an exhibition high run, probably more pressure to beat it when you have a crowd of onllookers watching and you're nearing the record, each ball at that point must be torture. Then there's practice high runs and even Mosconi himself ran a 598 and a 608 in practice but he doesn't seem to feel these were valid because they were just practice.
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Well, Mosconi run his 526 in a 8-footer with loose pockets (or that's what they say..)

I'd say that running 250 in a 9'' Brunswick Tournament Edition (Metro or GC V) is harder than running 526 in a 8'' with buckets. The comparison would be otherwise much more than (app.) 1:2, but it must be true that after couple of hundreds, no matter how easy the table, it must be exhausting and needs lots of stamina and focus.

In anyway counting the records is somewhat useless (or at least unofficial), unless the standards of the table is measured/settled.
In another comparison I could say, that running 100 with the Brunswick with Tournament Edition pockets must be about as hard as running 250 with the ordinary Brunswick with buckets.


But, to the Mosconi topic, of course we shouldn't forget the other facts either, that the cloth, balls and cue technology wasn't as good, so in that sence it compensates a lot.
 
Marvel said:
Well, Mosconi run his 526 in a 8-footer with loose pockets (or that's what they say..)

I'd say that running 250 in a 9'' Brunswick Tournament Edition (Metro or GC V) is harder than running 526 in a 8'' with buckets. The comparison would be otherwise much more than (app.) 1:2, but it must be true that after couple of hundreds, no matter how easy the table, it must be exhausting and needs lots of stamina and focus.

In anyway counting the records is somewhat useless (or at least unofficial), unless the standards of the table is measured/settled.
In another comparison I could say, that running 100 with the Brunswick with Tournament Edition pockets must be about as hard as running 250 with the ordinary Brunswick with buckets.





True, it must be exhausting to run so many balls, Earl Strickland once ran 408 in practice and he say it was the most exhausting thing he ever did on a pool table.

I don't know how loose the pockets were on the 4 x 8 table he ran the 526 on but Mosconi certainly could run big numbers on tight tables. My uncle saw him run something like 240 balls on a very tight 9 footer in an exhibition, sometime in the early 1960's. The amazing thing is that he only used the front 4 pockets for the entire run! Not one ball went up table. mosconi also had the most 125 and out runs on the old 5 x 10 tables and some of those had brutally tough pockets.
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