Outlining rack triangle on 860 Simonis

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I only play "The Beautiful Game" (14.1) and I want to draw an outline of the ball rack on my (4 1/2 X 9) table.

I have already measured and marked the foot spot on the table with white chalk.
You tube- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxfN9sfU97Q

I have new Simonis 860 on my table so I've got to get it right the first time.

1. Which rack should I use for the template?
I have a Delta-13 Elite rack and a standard wooden triangle rack.

2. Should the outline be drawn on the inside or the outside of the rack?

3.What should I use to draw the outline?

I'm hoping so experienced advise can save me from doing it the wrong way.

Cheers,
 
I have always used a black Sharpie to mark the rack area of my table. You should mark the outside of the rack so that you can ID any balls that interfere with the racking process as you complete your run.

As far as what rack to use, that is up to you, but most 14.1 players that I know will always use a thinner rack compared to one that has a larger footprint on the table. Then they can use balls that are closer to the rack area without interference.

Good Luck.
 
I do this with a white tailors chalk pencil. You will have to reline the table after a few months, but it is really nice an faint. Doesn't stick out like a sore thumb like sharpie. I'll snap a pic tonight when I get home for you.

Josh
 
Would like to see a picture of it.

I don't know anything about Tailors caulk. Does it smudge on the table?
 
I would use tailors chalk first just to see if the balls settle correctly. If they do, then just use a Sharpie later for a permanent mark. Taylors chalk can be easily erased.
 
Tony_in_MD said:
Would like to see a picture of it.

I don't know anything about Tailors caulk. Does it smudge on the table?
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I forgot to snap a pic last night; it was league night. I'll do it tonight and post.

The chalk does not smudge, at all. It does, however, fade. So, you will need to re-do the lines after a few months. But I like mine faint. The chalk doesn't alter the path of the balls, either. And, yes, it is easily erased if need be.

Josh
 
Pics. Hope these help. I took them with my phone; hope they turn out.

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Josh
 
Also, please remember these lines are fresh. They will fade to a nice faint line. I dig it.

Josh
 
Straight Lines

Do you use a big ruler or a big t square for the long lines? I love the white lines and want to do to my future table but straight lines seem to not be my strong point - you should see me measure and cut drywall....
 
I used a tape measure over, and over, and over again; along with a heavy block layers level. You can see the "dots" I made (measuring) if you look closely at the second picture, then used the level as my straight edge. I prefer the mason's level due to the heft.

jhugo said:
...you should see me measure and cut drywall....
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Next time, measure both ends and snap a chalk line (chalk box). That'll help with straight lines on sheet rock. Now, I can't help you with following that line, lol. The mud will cover it, but I hate finishing!


Josh
 
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is it a piece of tailor's chalk underneath the dresmaker's pencil? Did you try chalk first and decided to go with the pencil? Or both?
 
Thanks for the rep!

Vahmurka said:
is it a piece of tailor's chalk underneath the dresmaker's pencil? Did you try chalk first and decided to go with the pencil? Or both?
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Yes, that is a piece of tailor's chalk underneath the pencil. I usually use the chalk, but the sharpener broke. So, this time I had to go with the pencil. Both work about the same; except when using the pencil, you have to go over the lines a few times. Takes only once when using the tailor's chalk.

Josh
 
Thanks for the tips. Can you find the pencil or chalk at local stores (Target etc.) or do you need to go to a tailor and get one from them?

Scott
 
scottjen26 said:
Thanks for the tips. Can you find the pencil or chalk at local stores (Target etc.) or do you need to go to a tailor and get one from them?

Scott
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Google is your friend. I know they can be found on Amazon.

I'll find the links for you tomorrow.

Josh
 
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Thanks - I know I can find it online, I guess I should have more specifically asked if they were available locally and if so where. I guess you got them online... :)

Scott
 
Any fabric store (Joann's Fabric) or Michael's would have them.

I bought mine from Amazon.

Josh
 
Used blackboard chalk, it works fine

Guys, thank for you suggestions.

Since I didn't have a Sharpie or tailor's chalk handy, I tried outlining the ball rack with a piece of blackboard chalk from the (99 cent store). It actually did the job.

After tracing the rack, I went over the rack outline with my Simonis X-1 table cleaner to remove the excess chalk. The process left a soft very visible white outline of the rack on the the table. So far the outline has lasted (5) days of playing and table cleaning.
 
I saw a local tailor shop today at lunch and stopped in. Not only did I get a piece of chalk but got a lesson on the various types of chalk they use, how to apply it, various tailor tricks, etc. Guy was very old school and extremely knowledgeable. With his thick accent and mannerisms and shop decor I felt like I was transported to a small Italian villa, crazy...

This guy could draw the straightest fricking line free hand, was amazing. Also showed me some fabric that was $1000 a yard - yes, I'm not kidding...

Scott
 
scottjen26 said:
I saw a local tailor shop today at lunch and stopped in. Not only did I get a piece of chalk but got a lesson on the various types of chalk they use, how to apply it, various tailor tricks, etc.
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are you willing to share that info now? :wink::wink:
 
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