Pagulyan Carbon Fiber shaft?

Got given a few pieces of blue and it plays alright. I found it to be quite soft in the beginning, and was worried I would get through it quickly, but as I got down to the wrapper, it's become a bit more resilient. Used it for 3/4 months now, and it will easily last me a year or longer at this rate (and I play a couple hours a day). Applies well, clean and I actually like the shorter sized square.

Any noticeable difference between green and blue?
No difference between green and blue, and no difference between Pagulayan chalk and Taom
 
If it doesn't, it should..😂

Got given a few pieces of blue and it plays alright. I found it to be quite soft in the beginning, and was worried I would get through it quickly, but as I got down to the wrapper, it's become a bit more resilient. Used it for 3/4 months now, and it will easily last me a year or longer at this rate (and I play a couple hours a day). Applies well, clean and I actually like the shorter sized square.

Any noticeable difference between green and blue?
Boy, the topic here here sure has run off the rails.😂
 
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No difference between green and blue, and no difference between Pagulayan chalk and Taom
There is definitely a difference between the blue Taom V10 and the green Pagulayan.
The green Pagulayan is a bit softer and applies easier and stay longer. With V10 it's almost impossible to chalk very hard tips like jump and break tips and regular playing tips need to be scuffed often in order to hold the chalk.
 
Thanks Ram!! Vince is a class act and knows his shit when it comes to shafts. Plus he's got the pedigree.
Btw... There's no ping with Vince. He's a magician.
What shaft is this?

Edit to add: nevermind. Went back and saw your previous post.
 
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Alls I know is,, ,for $800 dollars,, , I better be able to lay that shaft down on the table,,
in front of a rack balls, then go & sit down & watch that shaft clear the rack on its own.
 
that shaft or one much so called better will be 300 in a short time frame.
sooner or later they will be made for less than 100.
but the name brands will still be high for those that think a name on something means its worth more.
 
that shaft or one much so called better will be 300 in a short time frame.
sooner or later they will be made for less than 100.
but the name brands will still be high for those that think a name on something means its worth more.
I think that the main problem of most "experts" is that they think that all CF shafts are just the same, all the same tubes coming from the same source. Well, breaking news... Not all CF shafts are the same, not all perform the same, not all feel the same, not all are of the same quality and CF is still an expansive material so a good high quality, high performance shaft will cost more than wood and it won't be cheap even before the added value due to branding.

In the image bellow, is my $200 Raven break shaft, not the most expansive but not the cheapest either, this is what we consider mid-tier, good value shaft.
I have it for just under 10 months and I've used it maybe once a week, just for breaking so that's not much use really.
See those markings on the shafts (the arrows are pointing at them), they were not there when the shaft was new, that looks to me like cracks in the CF sheets, or something that is about to crack... maybe a scratch? but from what? Didn't hear about such issues in let's say the $580 Predator BK CF shaft.... I don't say that it couldn't happen but if it was an issue we would have already hear about it from the many pros that use it and the millions amateurs that have them as well... How many pros use Raven?

There is a saying - "We are not rich enough to buy cheap stuff"
Might as well pay the high $$ to get the top quality stuff that will last longer and be cheaper at the end.

I don't know if that Pagulayan shaft is one of those high end products, it better be for that price!!! I'm not going to be the guinea pig for it, I can wait a few years to learn through others experience (unless Alex wants to send me one for free...).
We don't know yet what the exact tech is used for this shaft, the quality of the CF and other parts of it.
We just like to bash it for it's price and assume that it's just the same as any other $200 shaft. Some people will have to bite on their hat, just like Predator bashers did 30 years ago.

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