Paul mottey vs. James white

puckdaddy said:
Ive had my Mottey for over a year, it took me 7 months to get it. It has 3/8 x 10 ivory joint. I shot with it for about 6 months and just like one of the other guys said it was a bit mushy. Remember Paul uses a 9-10in straight taper so its gonna be soft. Now I suppose that taper is OK for a piloted joint but it doesnt translate well flatfaced. So I would take this into consideration, maybe you can discuss it with him and make it to suit you. Actually I thought about getting new shafts for mine because I hate not to play with it cause it looks so good. Also Paul isnt much of a talker on the phone so be forewarned. Hope I helped
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Thanks for the input pd
 
drivermaker said:
Yeh...but how do you know who worked on which and how much time both put into the cues? Do you honestly think that Mottey starts and does every step in between to completion with every cue that has his name on it?
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Do you think it matters at all once either Mottey's name or White's name is on the cue?
 
Getnbzy said:
Does anyone out there have expierence with either 1 of these cuemakers work.
As far as quality, balance, look, feel, and hit of the cue goes? I believe they work out of the same shop and paul has been at it a little longer. I have seen a few cues from both and really liked 2 in particular from each. Was thinking of getting 1 with an ivory joint (flatfaced or piloted). And any idea on how long the wait is for each ? Any recommendations/feedback with as much detail as possible is much appreciated. Thanks.
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I have James White I would sell. 19.2OZ with 2 shafts 13MM...ivory ferulles. PM for price
 

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iconcue said:
dm answered that in post #6
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I see. Well, he's certainly right about the quality, Mottey and White are both great cuemakers. But my point was more about the fact that once the name goes on, whether the cue was made, or mostly made, by one of the cuemakers versus the other would make no difference to the value of the cue (of course the quality needs to be comparable for this to be true as well).
 
Shorty said:
Based on resale and what I have seen as far as value...I would vote for a Mottey over a White.

That's just my opinion...

Shorty
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Hey Shorty

Trying to start another flaming war?

Do you think White will sue you for losing sales?
 
White vs. Mottey

Just my thoughts...

With regard to how much time Paul or James work on each other's cues, I don't think it really matters, as has been stated. It is a matter of quality and workmanship. What I find interesting is that when James broke out and started selling cues with his name on them, he immediately got virtually the same price that Paul had been getting. I thought that kind of strange. The only "apprentices" that seemed to be able to do that, as far as I know, are Pete Tascarella and Barry Szamboti. Any others out there that I forgot?

Other apprentices seem to have had to start out pricing their cues more reasonably at first to get their name out. Some still don't get the money that their teachers are getting, such as Mike Wheeler. He has worked in Richard Black's shop, and has been with Schick for quite a while, but his cues don't get half the same money. They are virtually the same structurally as Bill's, and hit the same.
 
cuenut said:
Just my thoughts...

With regard to how much time Paul or James work on each other's cues, I don't think it really matters, as has been stated. It is a matter of quality and workmanship. What I find interesting is that when James broke out and started selling cues with his name on them, he immediately got virtually the same price that Paul had been getting. I thought that kind of strange. The only "apprentices" that seemed to be able to do that, as far as I know, are Pete Tascarella and Barry Szamboti. Any others out there that I forgot?

Other apprentices seem to have had to start out pricing their cues more reasonably at first to get their name out. Some still don't get the money that their teachers are getting, such as Mike Wheeler. He has worked in Richard Black's shop, and has been with Schick for quite a while, but his cues don't get half the same money. They are virtually the same structurally as Bill's, and hit the same.
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Ed Young (worked with Joey Gold/Cognoscenti) came out pretty pricey.

Joel Hercek (apprenticed w/ Burton Spain) has, I think, never been cheap.

Cory
 
puckdaddy said:
Ive had my Mottey for over a year, it took me 7 months to get it. It has 3/8 x 10 ivory joint. I shot with it for about 6 months and just like one of the other guys said it was a bit mushy. Remember Paul uses a 9-10in straight taper so its gonna be soft. Now I suppose that taper is OK for a piloted joint but it doesnt translate well flatfaced. So I would take this into consideration, maybe you can discuss it with him and make it to suit you. Actually I thought about getting new shafts for mine because I hate not to play with it cause it looks so good. Also Paul isnt much of a talker on the phone so be forewarned. Hope I helped
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I'm not being a smart ass, could you please describe what a mushy hit is. I play with a Paul Mottey, 5/16x 14 piloted ivory joint, the hit is somewhere between soft and medium. Is this what a mushy hit feels like?
Regards,
Charles
 
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