Payment problems, could anyone help please?

alanvo

alanvo

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My situation is as following:
- I found a pool cue from this gentleman in PA, USA that I would love to buy.
- My problem is that I can only pay using PayPal, and he only wants to be paid with the good old money order (PayPal is probably too hi-tech for him?).
- I usually live in Australia. At the moment I live and work in Vietnam. I do have relatives living in TX, USA and they will go back to Vietnam in a month time. That's why I would like to pay with PayPal, get it shipped to my relatives and I'll have it in a month. However, the seller doesn't like PayPal and insists on money orders only.
- My relatives will not handle paying, they don't have a PayPal account, and have no interest in helping me pay. Personally, asking them to bring a cue back to Vietnam for me is already asking for enough. Plus, they don't want IRS questioning them about some amount sent from overseas.
- I could use Western Union, however the fees is ridiculous (around 10-12% extra).
- I have always used PayPal for pretty much everything. I have also ordered from Seyberts and similar sites. They did have questions about why my billing address is in Australia and shipping address is in Texas. But they always approve after I explain.

Could anyone suggest what to do? Any help?
 
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Send money to your family in Texas via Paypal and have them send it on to him via wire transfer or Western Union. With that said, you can send via Western Union from wherever you are. If a money order is the only way then go to the post office where you are and send a postal money order. It's pretty simple.

I can tell you now, with only 20 posts on the forum NO ONE is going to offer to send the money for you and take payment from you via PayPal. You may be the nicest person in the world, but with little to no history on here you should probably take the advice from above and send a postal money order from your post office. I live in Japan and have done it plenty of times. It's really easy.
 
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sellers I trader rating

What is sellers I trader rating? if he has a low I trader rating becareful.
You can also do escrow...........................................................?
MMike
 
mullyman said:
Send money to your family in Texas via Paypal and have them send it on to him via wire transfer or Western Union. With that said, you can send via Western Union from wherever you are. If a money order is the only way then go to the post office where you are and send a postal money order. It's pretty simple.

I can tell you now, with only 20 posts on the forum NO ONE is going to offer to send the money for you and take payment from you via PayPal. You may be the nicest person in the world, but with little to no history on here you should probably take the advice from above and send a postal money order from your post office. I live in Japan and have done it plenty of times. It's really easy.
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My relatives can't help with that, I believe it's within reasons (for them).
I understand that NO ONE will help because I'm a quite newbie here.
You can send a money order to the US from Japan? That's strange. I cant do that from here.

mortuarymike-nv said:
What is sellers I trader rating? if he has a low I trader rating becareful.
You can also do escrow...........................................................?
MMike
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I asked Fast N Loose for that, he refused (to receive the PayPal payment).
The seller's itrader rating is 23.
 
alanvo said:
My relatives can't help with that, I believe it's within reasons (for them).
I understand that NO ONE will help because I'm a quite newbie here.
You can send a money order to the US from Japan? That's strange. I cant do that from here.


I asked Fast N Loose for that, he refused (to receive the PayPal payment).
The seller's itrader rating is 23.
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Ask to do escrow... Several people offer the service and I seriously would wonder why someone wants my money order and won't use paypal...... Or better yet tell us what you are trying to purchase and you might find out several people are sitting on a similar cues without the hassle...

edit: If it is Fast_N_Loose... I doubt unless the price is in the thousands you need to worry... I didn't see the seller user ID when I posted earlier.... Send the MO and you will get the cue.......
 
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If you have a bank account in Vietnam or wherever where you are, perhaps you could wire transfer money directly to his bank account.
 
The Renfro said:
Ask to do escrow... Several people offer the service and I seriously would wonder why someone wants my money order and won't use paypal...... Or better yet tell us what you are trying to purchase and you might find out several people are sitting on a similar cues without the hassle...

edit: If it is Fast_N_Loose... I doubt unless the price is in the thousands you need to worry... I didn't see the seller user ID when I posted earlier.... Send the MO and you will get the cue.......
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- The only reason I can think of is that he (the seller) is an middle age guy who doesn't get along too well with hi-tech, and only sticks to whatever he's been doing.
- Except Fast N Loose, I don't see anyone publicly does escrow service.
- And yes, the price is in the $1000-$1500 range.
- I wouldn't expose the seller's ID here due to privacy issue.

GADawg said:
If you have a bank account in Vietnam or wherever where you are, perhaps you could wire transfer money directly to his bank account.
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- My main bank account is in Australia (just for receiving my monthly income), it's more like a saving account. Wire transfer fees is high.
- My sub bank account is in Vietnam. I wouldn't do wire transfer because of 2 reasons, the fees is crazy high, and in transactions that involve foreign currencies, they require verified documents for the purchased goods (in this case, an invoice).
 
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alanvo said:
- The only reason I can think of is that he (the seller) is an middle age guy who doesn't get along too well with hi-tech, and only sticks to whatever he's been doing.
- Except Fast N Loose, I don't see anyone publicly does escrow service.
- And yes, the price is in the $1000-$1500 range.
- I wouldn't expose the seller's ID here due to privacy issue.


- My main bank account is in Australia (just for receiving my monthly income), it's more like a saving account. Wire transfer fees is high.
- My sub bank account is in Vietnam. I wouldn't do wire transfer because of 2 reasons, the fees is crazy high, and in transactions that involve foreign currencies, they require verified documents for the purchased goods (in this case, an invoice).
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You are in Vietnam - you want a cue that is in the USA.

1. I wouldn't take Paypal from outside USA - as a seller, you lose any
control that is the reason for using Paypal in the first place.

2. Use Western Union international Money Order.

3. Live with the fact that buying something from half way around the
world involves more expense and inconvenience than from around the
corner.

Dale(sometimes international trader)
 
something i would not do is insult the seller by saying that paypal is probably too high tech for him.

But that is just me.

SLIM
 
alanvo said:
My situation is as following:
- I found a pool cue from this gentleman in PA, USA that I would love to buy.
- My problem is that I can only pay using PayPal, and he only wants to be paid with the good old money order (PayPal is probably too hi-tech for him?).
- I usually live in Australia. At the moment I live and work in Vietnam. I do have relatives living in TX, USA and they will go back to Vietnam in a month time. That's why I would like to pay with PayPal, get it shipped to my relatives and I'll have it in a month. However, the seller doesn't like PayPal and insists on money orders only.
- My relatives will not handle paying, they don't have a PayPal account, and have no interest in helping me pay. Personally, asking them to bring a cue back to Vietnam for me is already asking for enough. Plus, they don't want IRS questioning them about some amount sent from overseas.
- I could use Western Union, however the fees is ridiculous (around 10-12% extra).
- I have always used PayPal for pretty much everything. I have also ordered from Seyberts and similar sites. They did have questions about why my billing address is in Australia and shipping address is in Texas. But they always approve after I explain.

Could anyone suggest what to do? Any help?
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Where is the seller selling from? Ebay or AZB? If you send a money order how do you know the seller will ship the Item? I sell on Ebay and Paypal is the only form of payment I will accept. If the seller does not have a Paypal account then he must not sell many Items.
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
SLIM said:
something i would not do is insult the seller by saying that paypal is probably too high tech for him.

But that is just me.

SLIM
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damn- cant believe you would consider that like that. That's about as weak an insult as you can get.
 
I'm relatively high tech, process lots of money through PayPal every week, and I wouldn't accept a PayPal payment from Australia or Vietnam for a cue either. It might have more to do with the seller's concern for his money rather than his assumed inability to make PayPal work.

Thanks

Kevin
 
I think I could find a cue to buy which wouldn't take me through all this hassle. And you can pretty much send a money order from anywhere in the world to just about anywhere in the world.
 
pdcue said:
You are in Vietnam - you want a cue that is in the USA.

1. I wouldn't take Paypal from outside USA - as a seller, you lose any
control that is the reason for using Paypal in the first place.

2. Use Western Union international Money Order.

3. Live with the fact that buying something from half way around the
world involves more expense and inconvenience than from around the
corner.

Dale(sometimes international trader)
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1. PayPal protects the seller as long as they have evidence of shipment to the shipping address provided in the buyer's account.

2. WU makes it at least 10% more expensive. 10% fees to me, is somewhat a thief does.

3. Well, I have been paying using PayPal and get stuffs from the US shipped (indirectly) to me for the last 4-5 years. No problem until now.


SLIM said:
something i would not do is insult the seller by saying that paypal is probably too high tech for him.

But that is just me.

SLIM
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That, by any mean, was not an insult. And I'm sorry if it offended anyone.

Lock N Load said:
Where is the seller selling from? Ebay or AZB? If you send a money order how do you know the seller will ship the Item? I sell on Ebay and Paypal is the only form of payment I will accept. If the seller does not have a Paypal account then he must not sell many Items.
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
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The seller is from PA, US. He's selling on AZB.
- I would agree here that there's no security about paying with money orders.

kvinbrwr said:
I'm relatively high tech, process lots of money through PayPal every week, and I wouldn't accept a PayPal payment from Australia or Vietnam for a cue either. It might have more to do with the seller's concern for his money rather than his assumed inability to make PayPal work.

Thanks

Kevin
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Kevin, I have bought stuffs on Ebay, paying from Australia, and shipping to elsewhere many many times. There was absolutely no problem.

mlfield said:
I think I could find a cue to buy which wouldn't take me through all this hassle. And you can pretty much send a money order from anywhere in the world to just about anywhere in the world.
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I'm not so sure about sending money orders from a bank in Vietnam. There are complications that I mentioned above.


Now if there are concerns about the fees, I'm totally fine with PayPal fees (4%) and I'll just make sure that the buyer receives the correct amount (that he doesnt have to pay any fees)
 
alanvo said:
Kevin, I have bought stuffs on Ebay, paying from Australia, and shipping to elsewhere many many times. There was absolutely no problem.
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I'm sure you are honest as the day is long and that dealing with you is no problem. However, your method of payment is completely unsafe to the seller and he would be caught holding the bag in the case of a PayPal charge back.

I'm not saying you are a crook, I'm saying you are offering the seller a completely risky method of payment and one I would not accept either.

Just like you won't risk sending him a check, he won't risk taking your PayPal.

Thanks

Kevin
 
so you're expecting someone here to get involved in a transaction that from the gitgo sounds shady.

if he don't want your paypal, don't think to many others want the headache and hassle either. whats in it for us exactly?? besides the warm hearted feeling of helping someone while possibly getting screwed over as well.

i think the 10-12% western union fee for your transaction is sounding like the way to go.
 
Guys, please note that I'm not gonna be desperate for this deal (or this particular seller). I was just raising an issue that anyone of us could have faced, and maybe there's a solution that all can use in the future.
 
pdcue said:
You are in Vietnam - you want a cue that is in the USA.

1. I wouldn't take Paypal from outside USA - as a seller, you lose any
control that is the reason for using Paypal in the first place.


Dale(sometimes international trader)
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I'm sorry, I have to ask this, what control do you have if it's coming from inside the US? It's still PayPal. I take issue with this because I live in Japan and have come across places that won't take PayPal. I'm about as honest as they come and I've done deals with people here on AZ that would definitely speak for me if needed. Beside that though, regardless of if the money is coming from Maine or Malaysia, it's still an electronic transfer via the internet. What control do you really have? Do you feel that you can get in your car and drive cross country to find this person? I'm not trying to sound like a smart ass with that last line, I'm honestly curious about this. In my opinion, there are no borders on the internet. You are just as easily and likely to get ripped off by a guy 2 streets over as you are from someone on the other side of the planet and you have about as much recourse.

I can sympathize with the original poster here. For me to send a money order from Japan I have to pay currency exchange fees, even though I'm making a damned check and not touching any cash, I have to pay a 25.00 charge for making the money order and then I have to pay another 25 to ship it out in a way that if it gets lost I don't lose it. So, a hundred dollar item has just been bumped up to over 150.00 just messing with sending the money. Not to mention I have to drive all the way to the post office and fill out all the forms etc... With PayPal I can fill out an amount, an email address to send it to and push a button, DONE. I really don't like it when places won't accept PayPal or aren't set up to take a credit card. Oh, did I mention that an international money order from Japan can only go up to 700 dollars? Yeah, if I buy a cue that costs 2500 bucks I have to pay for 4 money orders. Do the math on that one.
MULLY
 
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