Payment Question

nicksaint26

nicksaint26

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If a seller asks you to pay them via the "gift method" through paypal do you still have the ability to submit a claim if they never send an item or it is misrepresented? Or do you have to use a different method besides gifting in case you get screwed? Thanks for any input.

Nick St. Jean
 
nicksaint26 said:
If a seller asks you to pay them via the "gift method" through paypal do you still have the ability to submit a claim if they never send an item or it is misrepresented? Or do you have to use a different method besides gifting in case you get screwed? Thanks for any input.

Nick St. Jean
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Nick

If its not a gift, but in fact merchandise and you are using the gift method as a way to defraud PayPal out of the fees they earn for their service, do you really think you can later go to them and ask for the protection of a dispute for merchandise?

Kevin
 
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kvinbrwr said:
Nick

If its not a gift, but in fact merchandise and you are using the gift method as a way to defraud PayPal out of the fees they earn for their service, do you really think you can later go to them and ask for the protection of a dispute for merchandise?

Kevin
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I never new they waived their fee for a gift transfer. Good to know.
 
It's a common way to scam someone out of money. If you gift them the money you have no legal standing and they never have to give you anything in return.
 
Thanks for your replies and thats why I asked. I am fairly new to all this and I have no problem paying the fees I was just curious as to why I was asked to gift it if I were gonna cover the fees. Now I know, I will have no recourse. Would this scare you if you were the buyer and without confronting the seller any advice on how to present this. I don't want it to affect the deal. He has only a few trades on here both positive but there were some concerning comments about him not getting back to someone when you clicked on his profile. I was told he has a good rep on ebay does anyone know how to confirm this. I can't seem to find a way to search by seller? Thanks again everyone I really want this cue really bad but obviously don't want to get stiffed.
 
nicksaint26 said:
Thanks for your replies and thats why I asked. I am fairly new to all this and I have no problem paying the fees I was just curious as to why I was asked to gift it if I were gonna cover the fees. Now I know, I will have no recourse. Would this scare you if you were the buyer and without confronting the seller any advice on how to present this. I don't want it to affect the deal. He has only a few trades on here both positive but there were some concerning comments about him not getting back to someone when you clicked on his profile. I was told he has a good rep on ebay does anyone know how to confirm this. I can't seem to find a way to search by seller? Thanks again everyone I really want this cue really bad but obviously don't want to get stiffed.
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consider escrow as an option
are you familiar with that??
 
FeltMaster said:
I never new they waived their fee for a gift transfer. Good to know.
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If you use a credit card there are still fees (as the cc company will certainly charge PayPal fees) but PayPal allows you as the sender to absorb the fees or pass them on to your recipient. I'm not sure what they do with a gift funded by cash, as I NEVER EVER pay that way. If I have a dispute, I file it with my CC company (not PayPal) and its a done deal.

Kevin
 
kvinbrwr said:
If you use a credit card there are still fees (as the cc company will certainly charge PayPal fees) but PayPal allows you as the sender to absorb the fees or pass them on to your recipient. I'm not sure what they do with a gift funded by cash, as I NEVER EVER pay that way. If I have a dispute, I file it with my CC company (not PayPal) and its a done deal.

Kevin
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I would have never thought about using it for any transaction. I always use my credit card also, just for the protection.
 
nicksaint26 said:
If a seller asks you to pay them via the "gift method" through paypal do you still have the ability to submit a claim if they never send an item or it is misrepresented? Or do you have to use a different method besides gifting in case you get screwed? Thanks for any input.

Nick St. Jean
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I think the best analogy for the situation is this:

What if you go to buy stolen ____ and your seller rips you off. Are you gonna call the cops?

If you try to scam paypal out of its 3% then you are gonna expose yourself to risk.
 
nicksaint26 said:
If a seller asks you to pay them via the "gift method" through paypal do you still have the ability to submit a claim if they never send an item or it is misrepresented? Or do you have to use a different method besides gifting in case you get screwed? Thanks for any input.

Nick St. Jean
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If the seller has a good feedback rating, then you can send payment as a gift, then you will pay the paypal fees.

The seller is only avoiding paypal fees and I don't blame him. If you don't want to send as a gift, then you should pay extra to cover the seller's fees.

Seller's can give a better deal if you pay as a gift.

Paypal gets paid fees no matter what.
 
do yourself the favor and figure out what 3% of your payment is and add it and pay the regular way.. its better to be safe then sorry...

chris
 
poolguy4u said:
If the seller has a good feedback rating, then you can send payment as a gift, then you will pay the paypal fees.

The seller is only avoiding paypal fees and I don't blame him. If you don't want to send as a gift, then you should pay extra to cover the seller's fees.

Seller's can give a better deal if you pay as a gift.

Paypal gets paid fees no matter what.
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That is one possibility, that sellers want gift to keep costs down. Another is that one's about to get "f'd without a kiss".

How does paypal get its fees on gift/ payment owed/ cash advance?
 
I add the 3% if asked to pay as a gift. I also tell the seller that is what I'm going to do.
If you can afford a $100 dollar cue, you can afford $3. If you can afford a $1000 cue, you can afford $30, or you can negotiate with the seller, somebody should be able to afford $30 on a $1000 transaction.
 
Black-Balled said:
That is one possibility, that sellers want gift to keep costs down. Another is that one's about to get "f'd without a kiss".

How does paypal get its fees on gift/ payment owed/ cash advance?
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The person giving the gift will pay the fee.:smile:
 
Looking back through my paypal account and at my bank records, I was not charged a fee for sending a gift any of the times I have done so.

And yes they were gifts:D to the folks on here recently who needed them.

Don't know about money owed or any other category.
 
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