paypal as a gift for cue sellers..

cubswin

cubswin

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Does anyone actually pay for cues as a paypal gift? Gives buyers no recourse if they get screwed out of the cue or any other product. Can't imagine wanting to save the small fee on just to try and sell the cue for a tiny amount less.

Seems like a great way to get scammed to me, but I haven't brought many cues in the last 4 years. Is this the new way people try and save a little bit of money?
 
cubswin said:
Does anyone actually pay for cues as a paypal gift? Gives buyers no recourse if they get screwed out of the cue or any other product. Can't imagine wanting to save the small fee on just to try and sell the cue for a tiny amount less.

Seems like a great way to get scammed to me, but I haven't brought many cues in the last 4 years. Is this the new way people try and save a little bit of money?
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I paid Rick G. that way even though he didn't ask or know it was coming as a gift. He makes fantastic cues.
 
Yep, I notice that. Furthermore, lots of sellers say "Paypal as gift or add 4%" which is doubly a scam: pay me more than I will get charged in PayPal fees or send as a gift where you have no buyers protection.
 
Personally, folks that buy my chalk ($8) I prefer them NOT to use the gift option. It just does not leave the buyer with any protection. Yeah, there is no chance I"m gonna screw someone over, but how do they know that?? And why take a "right" away from your customer.

There has GOT to be a LOT more mark up in building a cue than selling a box of chalk. It should just be the cost of doing business. It's only 2.9%, or $15 on a $500 cue.

Charge for shipping (reasonable) and suck up the Paypal fee. I've never gotten stiffed by someone using Paypal. No bad checks, no lost money orders, no declined credit cards, no BS, plain and simple. Well worth the price imho.
 
cubswin said:
Does anyone actually pay for cues as a paypal gift? Gives buyers no recourse if they get screwed out of the cue or any other product. Can't imagine wanting to save the small fee on just to try and sell the cue for a tiny amount less.

Seems like a great way to get scammed to me, but I haven't brought many cues in the last 4 years. Is this the new way people try and save a little bit of money?
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Yes it is the new way people, meaning cheapskate sellers, try to save money. NEVER do it period.
Sellers that do that should stick to neighborhood garage sales if that's how they think that's how business operates
 
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I have no problem with paying through paypal using the gift option but only if it is a reputable dealer or someone i have dealt with numerous times in the past.
 
Never a gift from me. Besides its a business. Let PP make a fee. The seller should raise the price (build it into the selling price)accordingly and pay the fees.
 
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cubswin said:
Does anyone actually pay for cues as a paypal gift? Gives buyers no recourse if they get screwed out of the cue or any other product. Can't imagine wanting to save the small fee on just to try and sell the cue for a tiny amount less.

Seems like a great way to get scammed to me, but I haven't brought many cues in the last 4 years. Is this the new way people try and save a little bit of money?
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I prefer standard PayPal unless I know someone well because sellers need protection as well. If a gift paypal is funded by a credit card, an unscrupulous or scamming buyer can file a false claim to a credit card company and the seller would have zero recourse or protection with paypal. I've contacted paypal directly to ask about this and they confirmed my understanding. Relatedly, I also do not usually accept overseas paypal because of fraud related issues.
 
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I have no problem with paying through paypal using the gift option but only if it is a reputable dealer or someone i have dealt with numerous times in the past.
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Sorry but in this context I'd question your use of the word "reputable".. Looks more to me that income isn't being reported. If I'm sending my sister money through Paypal I use gift,,,If I'm buying or selling (which I do a LOT) it's a merchandise transaction...period.
 
Not gonna happen

Unless I know you personally, I will NOT pay as a gift. I skip past most that expect it in their FS thread. If I want the cue bad enough I just make a deal where we usually split the fess. The fees are cheap insurance for a peace of mind.
 
I just tell people 'I'll make sure you get the right amount in the end - but it's not coming as a gift.' Only one person has had a problem with that....and it turns out he was selling stolen cues.

For those curious - the fees are 2.9% + .30 so if you want to calculate what you owe..

its (amount you want them to receive +.3)/.971
gets you within a penny.
 
Always pay as a purchase....even with your best friends.......it gives you more in control if things go awry
The seller funds are not released to their Paypal account until the Buyer acknowledges with Paypal item
has been received and there are not any issues or problems with the item. The seller does not get their money
until the Buyer confirms with Paypal item received and accepted. So never use the gift option & always use the purchase option.

p.s. And besides.....that's what it is and don't help the seller cheat the system.......if you use the gift option & the deal goes south, then you earned it.
 
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We always request F&F or add 4% for paypal fees. We deal a lot of cues and have a perfect reputation. We don't mark up our cues enough to cover those expenses. shipping is another factor. Throw ebay in the mix and now buyers are paying for shipping costs, paypal costs, and ebay fees one way or the other. Sellers can build fees in or give the option to the buyer.
 
I only do it if they have good itrader I sometimes ask via gift to avoid fees or just ask them to pay
 
I gift all the time. Most people with over 100 sales are not going to mess up there 100% itrader for a few hundred doll hairs!
 
I won't gift. If you want to sell cues work the fee into your price or eat it as a cost of doing business.
 
cubswin said:
Does anyone actually pay for cues as a paypal gift? Gives buyers no recourse if they get screwed out of the cue or any other product. Can't imagine wanting to save the small fee on just to try and sell the cue for a tiny amount less.

Seems like a great way to get scammed to me, but I haven't brought many cues in the last 4 years. Is this the new way people try and save a little bit of money?
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I did and I got scammed from a guy on here.

I couldnt get my money back because of the money gift scam but I was lucky my bank was nice and straight up paid me half the price of the cue I bought so it's like I paid the right price after all for the beat up cue.


You hear that scammer? You know who you are, Happy to let you know that I ended up on top and you didn't shaft me after all.
 
cubswin said:
Does anyone actually pay for cues as a paypal gift? Gives buyers no recourse if they get screwed out of the cue or any other product. Can't imagine wanting to save the small fee on just to try and sell the cue for a tiny amount less.

Seems like a great way to get scammed to me, but I haven't brought many cues in the last 4 years. Is this the new way people try and save a little bit of money?
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No I would not. Nor as a seller am I going to lie on customs forms. There is something about pettiness I detest.
 
cubswin said:
Does anyone actually pay for cues as a paypal gift? Gives buyers no recourse if they get screwed out of the cue or any other product. Can't imagine wanting to save the small fee on just to try and sell the cue for a tiny amount less.

Seems like a great way to get scammed to me, but I haven't brought many cues in the last 4 years. Is this the new way people try and save a little bit of money?
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My dumb ass did that and hot screwed twice so never again even if you buy from a well know seller
 
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