"Paypal not Working" Excuse

[Jeff]

Have any of you, that sell on ebay, been given the old "Paypal is not working for me" excuse.

Have you ever known paypal to just not work?

This is about the fourth time I have heard this one, usually in a few days it will magically start working for them and they will send the money.

Any other excuses you have gotten? WOuld love to hear them.

 

[MVPCues]

Have any of you, that sell on ebay, been given the old "Paypal is not working for me" excuse.

Have you ever known paypal to just not work?

This is about the fourth time I have heard this one, usually in a few days it will magically start working for them and they will send the money.

Any other excuses you have gotten? WOuld love to hear them.

Yes, sometimes paypal does not work. What sometimes happens is if there is a payment or money received that looks out of the ordinary for their account, Paypal will suspend their account. This is usually a rather large amount compared to their typical charges. They then have to fax in a hardcopy receipt of some sore for the transaction for their account to be activated again. It can take several days for that to happen, plus the time for them to get the paperwork faxed.

It happened to us.

Kelly

 

[billiardshot]

Trying to pay during PayPal maintenance period.

 

[Rip]

While selling a low dollar cue here recently someone used the "my PayPal isn't working" excuse. This was on a Saturday and they claimed it would take a couple of days to resolve. It reminded me of "my dog ate my homework" excuse. I sold the cue to another member who's PayPal was working perfectly within minutes. I emailed the "my PayPal is broken" person and wished them well with their PayPal woes and informed them I sold the cue to someone who was able to complete payment. I received a couple of obscene emails from the whiner with the "broken" PayPal and then took a couple of knocks here as well.

When I sell something here, I do so at very low prices because it can be very quick and easy. I'm not in the billiards supply business. Like others have done here, sometimes you realize you have too much stuff and simply want to get rid if it. If you're able to complete the transaction which means PAY for the item immediately, that's fine. If not, don't waste your time or mine.
Rip~hoping my PayPal won't "break"!

 

[Jeff]

Most of the time I could care less if it takes a few days for someone to pay. Just tell me the truth.

If I am in need of "quick" payment, I make sure that is in the ad or understood before hand.

This for sure isn't going to raise my blood pressure, but I am always amazed at the excuses people will give rather than just say, "Sorry, but it's going to take a couple of days, is that alright?"

 

[nola22]

FWIW, after many years of smooth service, I've had some problems with paypal in recent months. The process to add a new payment source or verify a new account has gotten more complicated and time comsuming--guess it's for our protection. I'd evaluate the "problems with paypal" excuse on a case by case basis.

 

[BHQ]

Most of the time I could care less if it takes a few days for someone to pay. Just tell me the truth.

If I am in need of "quick" payment, I make sure that is in the ad or understood before hand.

This for sure isn't going to raise my blood pressure, but I am always amazed at the excuses people will give rather than just say, "Sorry, but it's going to take a couple of days, is that alright?"

tap tap tap .
i get so aggravated with gutless people.
jesus, i've had money problems before, we all have sometime or another,
just say "i don't have it right now".
NOT make up more extravagant excuses/lies. ​

 

[tpdtom]

Paypal has never failed to work for me, nor has anyone ever used that excuse on me. When I buy something online, I normally pay by Debit card or Paypal immediately, however if I was a little short and couldn't send the funds for a few days I wouldn't expect that to be a problem, but I'd tell the seller up front.

I sold an expensive item once and the buyer wanted to use Paypal. I agreed but as it turned out he wasn't verified. Even after the fund transfer went through I waited until the funds cleared in my bank account. He was an Attorney and he had a FIT ! He threatened to call the sale off and tried everything in the book to intimidate me into shipping the item, but I held firm and he was not pleased at all. The entire thing took about a week. These days you have to do whatever it takes to protect yourself. The waters are often uncharted ...Tom

 

[poolnut]

I have had trouble with mine several times. I've bought quite a few items off of ebay, so I guess the ratio of problem-free transactions to problematic transactions doesn't really say much. Probably five times total I've been given some kind of error. I don't know anything about but computers, but usually the next day or so it will work.

 

[5ballcharlie]

Have any of you, that sell on ebay, been given the old "Paypal is not working for me" excuse.

Have you ever known paypal to just not work?

This is about the fourth time I have heard this one, usually in a few days it will magically start working for them and they will send the money.

Any other excuses you have gotten? WOuld love to hear them.

well I have had it not work for me.

 

[arsenius]

I would definitely be pissed if someone just sold an item when I said I was having problems making a payment. Ebay says you have how long? 5 Days or something to make payment? If you sell the item before that time has expired, without the buyer's consent, you are in the wrong according to ebay policies. You have broken the contract in this case.

Just because paypal normally works right away, the first time, doesn't mean it is 100%. I used to program computers. Believe it or not, things really can go wrong at any time. Especially on the internet. It's a little bit like a chain, if anything goes wrong between the two ends of the chain, you can't do what you want. Could be your computer, could be paypal's. Could be your ISP. Could be your ISP's ISP (yes, they have one though they don't word it like that). Could be your bank/credit card, or their ISP, etc...

I know pool players have great disgust for "excuses", but there are times that things do happen. Just because they haven't happened to you doesn't mean someone is BSing you. It means you're a lucky person. This is really becoming more and more important as technology progresses. Overall, things work more smoothly. However, when things break they are really FUBARed, because you can't easily isolate the problem. You can't just call the bank or the company anymore (half the time there isn't a phone number).

 

[alpine9430]

With my ebay purchases, I will always attempt to find sellers who will accept paypal because of the convenience. There was one time that I ran into a problem where I purchased something, paid for it via paypal, money was removed from my account and then a mysterious message about my paypal account was broken. I contacted the seller and made my payment via check through the mail. About 10 calendar days later, my paypal payment was received by the seller who was so kind as to refund the money back to me.

So I have had one bad situation with paypal and I am glad that the purchase was for only $50 so I could afford to have payments in process until it could be resolved.

Myron

 

[Jimmy M.]

Have any of you, that sell on ebay, been given the old "Paypal is not working for me" excuse.

Have you ever known paypal to just not work?

This is about the fourth time I have heard this one, usually in a few days it will magically start working for them and they will send the money.

Any other excuses you have gotten? WOuld love to hear them.

What I'm more interested in is the excuse that sellers might give for waiting to give me positive feedback after I pay for an auction immediately after it closes. Almost every time, without fail, that I have purchased something on Ebay, the seller always waits to see what my feedback will be. I paid for the auction the moment it closed! Is there something else I have to do? Didn't I fulfill my end of the agreement? There is one seller who left me positive feedback right after I paid for an item (and this is after 30+ transactions). I thought that was a pretty stand-up move on their part and, just because of that, I'll often go check out their auctions just to see what they're selling in case they have something I might want.

 

[arsenius]

What I'm more interested in is the excuse that sellers might give for waiting to give me positive feedback after I pay for an auction immediately after it closes. Almost every time, without fail, that I have purchased something on Ebay, the seller always waits to see what my feedback will be. I paid for the auction the moment it closed! Is there something else I have to do? Didn't I fulfill my end of the agreement? There is one seller who left me positive feedback right after I paid for an item (and this is after 30+ transactions). I thought that was a pretty stand-up move on their part and, just because of that, I'll often go check out their auctions just to see what they're selling in case they have something I might want.

There's an easy solution to that. Don't allow anyone (not just the interested parties) to see feedback until both have posted it. Escrow for feedback!

If you haven't posted your feedback after a certain amount of time, you don't get to. But the other party's feedback will at that time be made public.

 

[Pushout]

What I'm more interested in is the excuse that sellers might give for waiting to give me positive feedback after I pay for an auction immediately after it closes. Almost every time, without fail, that I have purchased something on Ebay, the seller always waits to see what my feedback will be. I paid for the auction the moment it closed! Is there something else I have to do? Didn't I fulfill my end of the agreement? There is one seller who left me positive feedback right after I paid for an item (and this is after 30+ transactions). I thought that was a pretty stand-up move on their part and, just because of that, I'll often go check out their auctions just to see what they're selling in case they have something I might want.

The transaction isn't complete 'til the buyer has paid, seller has received payment, and the buyer has received the item. then both parties leave feedback. Jesus, I've seen HUGE screaming matches on the Beckett hockey boards about this crap! You are NOT entitled to feedback right away, just because you've done your part. The transaction isn't over. As a seller, I have no problem with leaving feedback first, but after the transaction is over. You would not believe some of the spew I've seen over this.
You don't collect Hockey cards, do you? Reason I ask, until today, the ONLY place I ever saw this complaint was on the Beckett hockey card forums, and it's one of the major reasons I no longer collect. We've been doing Ebay since 1999 and never had a problem with this.

 

[Jeff]

With my ebay purchases, I will always attempt to find sellers who will accept paypal because of the convenience.

Well, the reason I posted this was over an excuse I am getting over a Varney shaft I sold on ebay.

In the auction I state "Paypal ONLY". The guy is telling me his Paypal isn't working and I can either offer it to the next bidder or wait for a MO.

I have offered this shaft for sale here in the "Wanted for sale" section if anyone wants it TODAY.......as I much prefer paypal.

If no one wants it, I will wait for the MO from the guy and hope I don't get the excuse, "Check is in the mail".

 

[Scaramouche]

I don't use Paypal much, but I did go through a stage where I couldn't get it to work.

The reason? The expiry date on my credit card had long since passed and was no longer being accepted. Once I updated my Paypal info everything was ok again.

Paying by Paypal, rather than directly by a credit card is the only time that the expiry date is not part of the payment process. And I have never seen notification from Paypal that my information was out of date.

 

[masonh]

once i sent money to the wrong paypal address(it was long missed i left out one letter)and i realized it b/c 5 minutes later he had not gotten the money.i looked back through and saw my mistake and cancelled the transaction.my paypal was frozen for like 4 days after that with plenty of money in my bank account,i couldn't send a quarter.so yes i ahve know paypal to not work.their customer service sucks by the way.

 

[Railbird Hero]

What I'm more interested in is the excuse that sellers might give for waiting to give me positive feedback after I pay for an auction immediately after it closes. Almost every time, without fail, that I have purchased something on Ebay, the seller always waits to see what my feedback will be. I paid for the auction the moment it closed! Is there something else I have to do? Didn't I fulfill my end of the agreement? There is one seller who left me positive feedback right after I paid for an item (and this is after 30+ transactions). I thought that was a pretty stand-up move on their part and, just because of that, I'll often go check out their auctions just to see what they're selling in case they have something I might want.

Hell yes I agree with you 110%. In fact I have actually added these sellers to a list of I WILL NOT BUY YOUR um stuff. I had one particular person who shipped the wrong thing twice. Cost me three times the shipping and he wouldnt leave me feedback even after I left him a positive one for resolving his inability to add 1 and 1 to get 2. I always pay as soon as item auction ends and these mules know they are not sending your item as quick as they listed they would in the auction description.

 

[Jimmy M.]

The transaction isn't complete 'til the buyer has paid, seller has received payment, and the buyer has received the item. then both parties leave feedback. Jesus, I've seen HUGE screaming matches on the Beckett hockey boards about this crap! You are NOT entitled to feedback right away, just because you've done your part. The transaction isn't over. As a seller, I have no problem with leaving feedback first, but after the transaction is over. You would not believe some of the spew I've seen over this.
You don't collect Hockey cards, do you? Reason I ask, until today, the ONLY place I ever saw this complaint was on the Beckett hockey card forums, and it's one of the major reasons I no longer collect. We've been doing Ebay since 1999 and never had a problem with this.

I would have never seen your post if someone hadn't resurrected this thread. However, after seeing your little sarcastic semi-rant, I guess I'll respond. I apologize in advance for responding in the same, like manner that you responded to me ...

No, I don't collect hockey cards. I leave that to the kiddies in the school yards and goofballs who are willing to pay money for such "crap" (sorry to use your buzzword there). We may disagree, but I can assure you that there are many ebay buyers out there who share my opinion on this. And, yes, after I pay, I consider my half of the transaction complete. What if I pay and you never send the item? Then what? I leave negative feedback and you, in retaliation, leave negative feedback for me? Now *I* have negative feedback and have done NOTHING wrong! That's a fair system? Once I pay the full amount in a timely manner then, HELL YES, I am entitled to positive feedback and you, as the seller, are entitled to the feedback that you get based on your actions. Why wait for my feedback to see what you're going to say? I've done everything by the book. It's perfectly legitimate to think that I may have lived up to my end of the agreement and the seller didn't. In that case, why shouldn't I have positive feedback and the seller have negative feedback? If that's how the transaction went, then the feedback should reflect that. Do you honestly disagree with that? If so, I seriously question your business ethics because you're unwilling to look like the bad guy in a transaction, even if you are. If a seller screws up in a transaction, they should get the negative feedback they deserve (that's the whole purpose of the feedback system) and not have the right to give the buyer, who paid in full (and on time), negative feedback that they do not deserve. Period.

I'll make you a deal here so we can put a quick end to this silly debate before it has a chance to really get started. You post your ebay seller name and I promise not to participate in any of your auctions. If you post it you'll give me, and everyone else here who agrees with my opinion, the option of whether or not to buy from you. Don't worry about my ebay name as, once I know yours, you have my word that I will not participate in any of your auctions. Not to mention, you already know enough about me. I post with my real name and have my own picture as my avatar.