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Carissa Biggs sent me the following message that she wanted posted regarding last weekends Pechauer Tour Stop and Ronnie Allen's DQ from the event. These are Carissa's exact words...


The Pechauer West Coast Tour is designed to be a tour about pool. We strongly believe in professionalism and respect to all competitors who participate in tour events. We hope that by setting high standards for conduct, respect, and sportsmanship, the game of pool (at least in our area) will be in a position to move forward, rather than backward - like it seems to have done over the past several years.

When I first started running the tournaments on my own I found that certain players would want special treatment, or that situations would arise with sharking that I felt I should not intervene on because I could not tell whether or not it bothered the opponent. After that happened a couple times, we made the decision that there should be a minimum level of respect between players required at the events or sportsmanship infractions would be implemented regardless of whether or not the opposing player requested it. Before each event there is a player's meeting that outlines what that minimum level of conduct is. It includes (1) 5 minute break, no talking while your opponent is at the table, being seated when it is your opponent's turn to shoot, taking breaks on your inning or between games only, among other what seem to me to be common sense acts of respect. I make sure to get across in every player's meeting that the tournament the players have just signed up for is a pool tournament - and that the matches in the tournament should be about a game of pool - not who can mentally outmaneuver their opponent into shooting the worst. Please keep in mind that health issues are a completely different topic and would be handled with sensitivity and common sense.

This is what happened in regards to Ronnie Allen at the Ca Billiard Club stop - it is an accurate sequence of events.

Ronnie Allen was in a match. I walked through to survey the room as I had done many times throughout the day to make sure things were running smooth. I noticed Ronnie talking for the sake of talking while his opponent was trying to shoot. His opponent did not appear to be engaging in the conversation - but rather appeared to be trying to work through it and send Ronnie a message that he didn’t want to chitchat. This was observed from the rail, which was very much away from their table. I continued to watch and in between a game, after Ronnie hadn't stopped, I went over to the table to talk to Ronnie (quietly) about the fact that his conduct was unsportsmanlike and that he shouldn't be talking and carrying on during the match. He immediately changed the subject telling me that the cue ball was out of round (without ever acknowledging the reason I needed to be there in the first place). I continued to try to talk to him about why I was there - but he naturally would not let the cue ball issue go - trying to involve his opponent - who again, did not want to be involved. Ronnie told me that he was a professional pool player and that he would in no way be trying to "work me over" but anyone could see the cue ball is out of round. I had no problem dealing with the cue ball issue. I went to the owner of the room who promptly took over a fresh cue ball. Ronnie made some mistake during the next game and swiped the two remaining balls off the table when he gave up ball-in-hand on the 8-9. I then went over to talk to him again and let him know that his conduct was unacceptable. I left the immediate area and when I came back Ronnie was not at the table. His opponent came up to me and asked me to intervene - when Ronnie came back from the "bathroom" which was his 2nd break of the match with a fresh drink - I let him know that he needed to stay at the table during the match. He had words with me about the importance of the bathroom and walked over to resume the game. When he missed, his opponent went up to shoot (I did not know he was on the hill) - and Ronnie started talking and carrying on - at which point I went over to let Ronnie know that he forfeited the game due to continued unsportsmanlike conduct. At that point Ronnie had to tell me what he thought of the tour and me and how he would never be back or play again.

The last thing I wanted to do was be in a situation like that. Contrary to what others seem to be saying, I did not want to forfeit Ronnie.
Danny Medina never talked to me about the match - I did not know that Ronnie's opponent had anything to do with Medina until I read it on the azbilliards forum. I also intervened between George Michaels and Mark Haddad when their heated debate took place after their match. The bottom line is that no matter who is being loud or obnoxious it is disruptive to other players and the crowd – otherwise not so many people would have spoke up about what they thought they saw. It is not just the opponent who suffers – people in other matches are also often times unable to keep their concentration when disruptive situations are taking place.

On The Wire Billiard Promotions, which includes On The Wire newspaper and The Pechauer West Coast Tour, Steve Lingelbach, and myself, Carissa Biggs, would like to continue working toward a day when these kinds of incidents are a thing of the past. The tour has been a great success and the driving force behind that success are the generous sponsors who make the events possible. The bottom line is that sponsors don't want to be involved in sports that condone this type of behavior (Camel is a perfect example of this). There is no men's professional tour because of this exact lack of professionalism.

We have nothing against Ronnie Allen and should he have a change of heart - he is welcome at future West Coast Pechauer Tour events.
 
The Ron Allen disqualification

AzHousePro said:
Carissa Biggs sent me the following message that she wanted posted regarding last weekends Pechauer Tour Stop and Ronnie Allen's DQ from the event. These are Carissa's exact words...


The Pechauer West Coast Tour is designed to be a tour about pool. We strongly believe in professionalism and respect to all competitors who participate in tour events. We hope that by setting high standards for conduct, respect, and sportsmanship, the game of pool (at least in our area) will be in a position to move forward, rather than backward - like it seems to have done over the past several years.

When I first started running the tournaments on my own I found that certain players would want special treatment, or that situations would arise with sharking that I felt I should not intervene on because I could not tell whether or not it bothered the opponent. After that happened a couple times, we made the decision that there should be a minimum level of respect between players required at the events or sportsmanship infractions would be implemented regardless of whether or not the opposing player requested it. Before each event there is a player's meeting that outlines what that minimum level of conduct is. It includes (1) 5 minute break, no talking while your opponent is at the table, being seated when it is your opponent's turn to shoot, taking breaks on your inning or between games only, among other what seem to me to be common sense acts of respect. I make sure to get across in every player's meeting that the tournament the players have just signed up for is a pool tournament - and that the matches in the tournament should be about a game of pool - not who can mentally outmaneuver their opponent into shooting the worst. Please keep in mind that health issues are a completely different topic and would be handled with sensitivity and common sense.

This is what happened in regards to Ronnie Allen at the Ca Billiard Club stop - it is an accurate sequence of events.

Ronnie Allen was in a match. I walked through to survey the room as I had done many times throughout the day to make sure things were running smooth. I noticed Ronnie talking for the sake of talking while his opponent was trying to shoot. His opponent did not appear to be engaging in the conversation - but rather appeared to be trying to work through it and send Ronnie a message that he didn’t want to chitchat. This was observed from the rail, which was very much away from their table. I continued to watch and in between a game, after Ronnie hadn't stopped, I went over to the table to talk to Ronnie (quietly) about the fact that his conduct was unsportsmanlike and that he shouldn't be talking and carrying on during the match. He immediately changed the subject telling me that the cue ball was out of round (without ever acknowledging the reason I needed to be there in the first place). I continued to try to talk to him about why I was there - but he naturally would not let the cue ball issue go - trying to involve his opponent - who again, did not want to be involved. Ronnie told me that he was a professional pool player and that he would in no way be trying to "work me over" but anyone could see the cue ball is out of round. I had no problem dealing with the cue ball issue. I went to the owner of the room who promptly took over a fresh cue ball. Ronnie made some mistake during the next game and swiped the two remaining balls off the table when he gave up ball-in-hand on the 8-9. I then went over to talk to him again and let him know that his conduct was unacceptable. I left the immediate area and when I came back Ronnie was not at the table. His opponent came up to me and asked me to intervene - when Ronnie came back from the "bathroom" which was his 2nd break of the match with a fresh drink - I let him know that he needed to stay at the table during the match. He had words with me about the importance of the bathroom and walked over to resume the game. When he missed, his opponent went up to shoot (I did not know he was on the hill) - and Ronnie started talking and carrying on - at which point I went over to let Ronnie know that he forfeited the game due to continued unsportsmanlike conduct. At that point Ronnie had to tell me what he thought of the tour and me and how he would never be back or play again.

The last thing I wanted to do was be in a situation like that. Contrary to what others seem to be saying, I did not want to forfeit Ronnie.
Danny Medina never talked to me about the match - I did not know that Ronnie's opponent had anything to do with Medina until I read it on the azbilliards forum. I also intervened between George Michaels and Mark Haddad when their heated debate took place after their match. The bottom line is that no matter who is being loud or obnoxious it is disruptive to other players and the crowd – otherwise not so many people would have spoke up about what they thought they saw. It is not just the opponent who suffers – people in other matches are also often times unable to keep their concentration when disruptive situations are taking place.

On The Wire Billiard Promotions, which includes On The Wire newspaper and The Pechauer West Coast Tour, Steve Lingelbach, and myself, Carissa Biggs, would like to continue working toward a day when these kinds of incidents are a thing of the past. The tour has been a great success and the driving force behind that success are the generous sponsors who make the events possible. The bottom line is that sponsors don't want to be involved in sports that condone this type of behavior (Camel is a perfect example of this). There is no men's professional tour because of this exact lack of professionalism.

We have nothing against Ronnie Allen and should he have a change of heart - he is welcome at future West Coast Pechauer Tour events.

I was at this tournament. I was looking forward to watching this great pool legend play because I hadn't before; however, when I looked at the flow chart, I saw "forfeit" next to his name... I asked Ms. Biggs why R.A. had forfeited his game, and she basically told me about his uncooperative behavior, how she had to disqualify him, and that it was a hard thing she had to do... Naturally, I was disappointed about it, but I have to say I respect her for making a difficult decision... California Billiard Club (IMO) is one of the nicest places in the State to play pool...I see quite a few families and young kids playing there....Chet Itow, the owner, has designed a beautiful layout and environment for the POOL PLAYER...He is quite an avid pool player himself...I know he has banned some people from his place for being out of line, and I respect that too. I was glad to see, however, that Ron Allen matched up with a young sharpshooter after the tournament...He played one-handed while his opponent used both hands...It was fun to watch and the crowd that gathered around was treated to quite an exhibition ... I, for one, am glad to see tournaments such as the Pechauer Tour happen, because the sport might go back in the right direction again, and I'm definitely a pool fan who enjoys watching good pool being played ... See you at Hard Times in Sacramento this weekend for the next Pechauer stop...
 
Way to go Carissa!!! If there were more TD's with the courage and conviction you demonstrated, this sport might be finally elevated to the level it should be at. No offense meant towards Ronnie Allen, but if TD's allow players to act inappropriately, they will continue to do so. Conversely, if players are not allowed to act inappropriately, their behaviors in the tournament envirionment will change for the better. I'm sure that Earl is a nice guy away from the tournament room, but when he's competing, he can be awful, and he only does that because he can. If he wasn't allowed to act like that, guess what, he wouldn't. You go Carissa!!
 
I agree with Rick W., you can't allow the players to run the tournament, that's the TD's job. The TD needs to be firm, but fair. Rules without a penalty are only suggestions.... Doug (a firm, but fair TD)
 
If nothing else, after you go through the rules and regulations and evereyone "understands and will abide" by them...have them sign a sheet saying they are aware of the consequences and will abide by them. Then you can say...*holding up sheet* "Remember this?". I am sure it would be no cconsolation to their being forfeited but at least they acknowledge they were breaking the rules.
 
Carissa,

I run the Pechauer North East Women's Tour and I applaud you for sticking to your convictions in this case.

As a TD myself, I let the women of the Tour know in no uncertain terms during the player's meetings that unsportsmanlike conduct will not be tolerated and if it occurs repeatedly, it may just earn you a "vacation" from the Tour.

In the 5 years I've run this tour and the 11 I've been playing in it, there was only one circumstance I can recall that caused the Tour Coordinator to suspend one player - and that was 10 years ago.

Stay with it and the men will see that you mean business and hopefully they'll wisen up and not even try anything.

Barbara
 
As I posted in the last thread, I have known her for several years now and I know that there had to be something for her to make such a decision as forfeiting someone. I am behind her 100%. For those of you who do not Carissa, she is one of the nicest people to be involved with pool. She is an asset to our sport and a good friend.

Eydie
 
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Bob Romano said:
As I posted in the last thread, I have known her for several years now and I know that there had to be something for her to make such a decision as forfeiting someone. I am behind her 100%. For those of you who do not Carissa, she is one of the nicest people to be involved with pool. She is an asset to our sport and a good friend.

Eydie


There have always been and there always will be those who think the rules don't apply to them. Neither by ability or their reputation should they receive special treatment. If there's a dress code it should be enforced and it should apply to everyone with no excuses. Sportsmanship in tournaments is a must if our sport is going to grow in the right direction. All the talk should be left in the action room. Sam
 
"There is no men's professional tour because of this exact lack of professionalism."

I think this simple analysis to a complex issue makes me suspect of your judgement. It also shows some kind of prejudice to "the men". It lays blame on the the men players and their attitudes. I think the reasons are more deeper than that. NASCAR race drivers are notorious for their behaviour and tennis players too for that fact. When there is success the organizers always take the bows. When there is failure the performer (athlete) is blamed. This makes me question your objectivity.
 
Quote Carissa: There is no men's professional tour because of this exact lack of professionalism. Unquote

I think John DiToro, O.B. Osceola and the men of the Florida Men's Pro Tour might take exception to that statement.

John DiToro ran a very professional, well conducted 1st stop of this year's tour. (2nd year in existence) I really do not think the players of the tour would expect zero tolerance. When dealing with players at this high level of skill they all have high egos and really believe that they are the best.

It takes a true diplomat to keep them all happy. John is doing a great job.

Keep an eye on this tour. It shows great promise to be great for men's pool.

Jake
 
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