Performance of Americans in NA Open

[memikey]

A quick check of the results so far shows the stats for American players to be as follows:-

103 out of 200 runners were American.

57 out of 103 qualified for the last 120.

22 out of 57 qualified for the last 60.

9 out of 22 qualified for the last 36........which also means that 13 out of 24 players in total eliminated at this stage were American and that 27 out of the last 36 players now standing are non-American.


A reasonable performance so far or disappointing ??

 

[Colin Colenso]

I also see that there are 9 Filipinos still in the last 36. 12 Filipinos started in the tournament I think.

Also note that 14 countries are represented in the last 36 players. 18 of them being from just the USA and Philippines.

Colin

 

[TheOne]

I also see that there are 9 Filipinos still in the last 36. 12 Filipinos started in the tournament I think.

Also note that 14 countries are represented in the last 36 players. 18 of them being from just the USA and Philippines.

Colin

OK OK, so the Brits dropped a few, but we still got 5 (6 inc Mika hehe), and sure we can claim Hahn through some technicality?

 

[bandido]

I hope nobody takes my opinion negatively but rather use it for the future.

Level 1&2 outcome looks good as the contingent was batting above 50% but come the later stages they started fading. The IPT tournaments are structured for full-time professional poolplayers. So, as in any profession, the ones who are appropriately prepared and most qualified for the job are the ones who excel. But, at this point, they did real good and will continue to do so in the future IPT offerings.

Edwin-pssst-More international exposure may help.

 

[Colin Colenso]

OK OK, so the Brits dropped a few, but we still got 5 (6 inc Mika hehe), and sure we can claim Hahn through some technicality?

C'mon mate, we all know that Brits are just Aussie immigrants in waiting

 

[Colin Colenso]

I hope nobody takes my opinion negatively but rather use it for the future.

Level 1&2 outcome looks good as the contingent was batting above 50% but come the later stages they started fading. The IPT tournaments are structured for full-time professional poolplayers. So, as in any profession, the ones who are appropriately prepared and most qualified for the job are the ones who excel. But, at this point, they did real good and will continue to do so in the future IPT offerings.

Edwin-pssst-More international exposure may help.

Edwin,
I recall saying here that I thought the Filipinos may not be as dominant in 8-ball as they have been in 9-ball. Thinking that they hadn't played a lot of the game. I've learned different now. ....

Colin

 

[TheOne]

C'mon mate, we all know that Brits are just Aussie immigrants in waiting

Hi mother probably was one so I'm claiming him!

PS
Given its about 4am there I'm guessing you found a place that accepts RMB?

Hey if you see Darren tell him his loss to Niels cost me about $2000 last night lol, I still won 400 though so not the end of the world I was going to bet on you, well your matches but they wouldn't let me! Just kidding mate you did ok in a tough group, get some more comps under your belt and Im sure you can make it through a few rounds at least.

 

[bandido]

Edwin,
I recall saying here that I thought the Filipinos may not be as dominant in 8-ball as they have been in 9-ball. Thinking that they hadn't played a lot of the game. I've learned different now. ....

Colin

Ahhh the joys of living! Learn something everyday. I think that from reading some of my posts you'll see the reason why they would + as somebody else mentioned...spot-on positioning! I remember a few years back that Andam beat the inventor of Target Pool, people should have taken that hint seriously. Rotation on grungy table anyone?

 

[jsp]

...Rotation on grungy table anyone?

I've said it before and i'll say it again, rotation seems like the game that makes you the most versatile pool player. Though Souquet and Hohmann are still around making a case for straight pool (I'm still shocked that Ortmann is gone).

I'm very impressed with the showing of many of the Brits. Seems like many of them are very comfortable with 8ball, considering they have a predominantly snooker and English 8ball background.

Interesting thought, but if we kept the same round robin format with the same players, but the game changed to 9ball (w/ Simonis cloth), how do you think the final 36 would look like? Would it be much different?

 

[bandido]

I've said it before and i'll say it again, rotation seems like the game that makes you the most versatile pool player. Though Souquet and Hohmann are still around making a case for straight pool (I'm still shocked that Ortmann is gone).

I'm very impressed with the showing of many of the Brits. Seems like many of them are very comfortable with 8ball, considering they have a predominantly snooker and English 8ball background.

Interesting thought, but if we kept the same round robin format with the same players, but the game changed to 9ball (w/ Simonis cloth), how do you think the final 36 would look like? Would it be much different?

Probably the same ratio as the most recent 9 ball tourments where most of these guys participated in.

 

[mthornto]

A quick check of the results so far shows the stats for American players to be as follows:-
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A reasonable performance so far or disappointing ??

I don't think this is disappointing at all. You have to remember that most of these players were "selected" to be in the IPT based on filling out an application. There were a lot of spots to fill and I expect the bulk of applicants were from the US. This seems to have lead to a lot of the "selected" players at the bottom to be American. If the IPT is still around in a few years I think the number of total Americans will go down, but the American representation in the late rounds will still be respectable.

BTW, I am not trying to knock the less than world class players in the IPT, fact is they could all spot me a few games on the wire and still kick my butt.

 

[Andrew Manning]

My (sort of disjointed) thoughts:

Okay, the Americans and Filipinos each make up 25% of the field, which is pretty strong considering 12 more countries make up the other half of the field. Both the American and Filipino contingents have now been whittled down to 9 of their top pros, meaning the 94 Americans who have been eliminated are not entirely relevant in my book. They weren't our top players, and so they didn't make it to the top 36 in the tournament. No surprises there (well, there were a few upsets and unexpected early exits, but what I mean is it's expected that the Americans who weren't already winning against other American pros wouldn't have made the end of the tournament).

The Filipinos have managed to survive this far into the tournament incredibly well, still holding about 75% of their original contingent (very strong!). I don't find this surprising either, seeing as all the Filipinos that entered the tournament were world-class players, and were already known as such. There were no Filipino equivalents of Bernie Friend in this tournament; every single one of them that entered is a player who has a chance to go far in any tournament.

You have to wonder how different this final 36 might look if 10 or 20 of Taiwan's best had been included in the initial 200. I know a lot of them match up very well against the top pros in the world. Food for thought I guess.

Anyway, I'm proud of our American players. There are a lot of places in the world where pool is much more prevalent than it currently is in the US, and despite the death of ubiquitous high-quality action, our guys are showing they haven't forgotten how to rise to the top (or at least near the top).

-Andrew

 

[bandido]

My (sort of disjointed) thoughts:

Okay, the Americans and Filipinos each make up 25% of the field, which is pretty strong considering 12 more countries make up the other half of the field. Both the American and Filipino contingents have now been whittled down to 9 of their top pros, meaning the 94 Americans who have been eliminated are not entirely relevant in my book. They weren't our top players, and so they didn't make it to the top 36 in the tournament. No surprises there (well, there were a few upsets and unexpected early exits, but what I mean is it's expected that the Americans who weren't already winning against other American pros wouldn't have made the end of the tournament).

The Filipinos have managed to survive this far into the tournament incredibly well, still holding about 75% of their original contingent (very strong!). I don't find this surprising either, seeing as all the Filipinos that entered the tournament were world-class players, and were already known as such. There were no Filipino equivalents of Bernie Friend in this tournament; every single one of them that entered is a player who has a chance to go far in any tournament.

You have to wonder how different this final 36 might look if 10 or 20 of Taiwan's best had been included in the initial 200. I know a lot of them match up very well against the top pros in the world. Food for thought I guess.

Anyway, I'm proud of our American players. There are a lot of places in the world where pool is much more prevalent than it currently is in the US, and despite the death of ubiquitous high-quality action, our guys are showing they haven't forgotten how to rise to the top (or at least near the top).

-Andrew

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[Roy Steffensen]

I think it is quite impressing with the guys from The Netherlands.

Rico Diks (He IS from Holland, not England as it says on the IPT), Niels Feijen, Alex Lely and Nick van den Berg were the guys representing Holland, and they are all among the last 36!!!

Feijen is doing really well with 40 Break & Run, though he has lost a couple of matches too...

 

[bandido]

I think it is quite impressing with the guys from The Netherlands.

Rico Diks (He IS from Holland, not England as it says on the IPT), Niels Feijen, Alex Lely and Nick van den Berg were the guys representing Holland, and they are all among the last 36!!!

Feijen is doing really well with 40 Break & Run, though he has lost a couple of matches too...

They indeed are a talented bunch! Which got the wheels turning here. Anybody here want to incorporate in an effort to put together a 6-12 men per team tournament to be immediately held after the WPC-Manila? They're all there plus qualifiers from their countries. Anybody think this is a good idea?