Phenolic tip being banned by all??

StormHotRod300

StormHotRod300

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A friend of mine told me this the other day that the Phenolic tips are going to be banned in the near future.

I honestly could care less about using a phenolic tip for breaking, but just curious if anyone else heard about the APA,BCA and other banning the phenolic tip.
 
Haven't heard about that. Guess I'd have to throw a water buffalo on my stinger. :(
 
xidica said:
Haven't heard about that. Guess I'd have to throw a water buffalo on my stinger. :(
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Haven't herad it either... Xidica, just have Jerry make you one of the IPT legal leather tipped stinger shafts. Got one with my Stinger and it's killer... of course, someone who can't jump will try to make it illegal eventually too! :)

Seriously, the IPT Legal Stinger shaft is great. I lost about a half a ball jumping distance with it compared to the phenolic. Not enough to even say there's an appreciable difference.

Later,
Bob
 
StormHotRod300 said:
A friend of mine told me this the other day that the Phenolic tips are going to be banned in the near future.

I honestly could care less about using a phenolic tip for breaking, but just curious if anyone else heard about the APA,BCA and other banning the phenolic tip.
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I haven't heard or read about this at all.

Also, I don't see it happening any time soon. McDermott recently purchased the rights to the Sledehammer B/J cue and I'm sure they didn't buy those rights to make illegal cues. McD swings a lot of weight in the industry and I'm sure they will use their influence to stop any rule changes to make phenolic tips illegal.
 
No word of that, nothing in the newest APA 2007 team manual either.

Phenolic tips have been around for quite some time, even way before they came into vogue, with no problems to anybody or their equipment. Don't see the need for any new rules, personally.
 
Have we reached the stage yet where "IPT" is something best not marketed on a product? Personally, the attachment of "IPT" to any product right now makes me think negative on the product.

That said, I have never tried your Stinger cue but if someone in the room has a different jump cue than me (XBreaker), I would love to give it a try. I often give differnet cues a whirl to see how they hit. Tried a Predators BK2 the other day and it was pretty good. Still like my xbreaker better.
 
ya know.. its funny.. its not like the give anybody a real extra advantage.. and if you didnt have one.. they sell phenolic tip cues cheap enough so everybody can afford them.. all you have to do is buy it!

chris
 
Always regard the source of the information, is he in touch with all of the associations?

Even if they all banned it, there is not one place where that information could be passed along to the masses quickly. There are too many factions in pool and none of them talk to each other. For each and every association to ban a tip would take the concerted effort of them all, which would be a nice step forward.
 
Yeah ...

They wanted to ban aluminum and steel rackets in Tennis for awhile too .... lol You can now see how that went over.

The NBA reverted back to a leather ball as of this coming January, but I still expect them to go back to an artificial material ball in the future, when the kinks are worked out.

Some tours or tournaments have restrictions, but it is not a major concern for a player at this point. Some prohibit the use of jump cues too.

BTW, I had to have phenolic tip replaced (lost first one, couldn't find it), and it cost me $15 and ten minutes time, done by a cuemaker.
 
Your friend may have been confusing banning phenolic tips with the attempt to enforce the recently issued patent on the very popular phenolic combination tip/ferrule that Mike Gulyassy (the developer of the Sledgehammer jump/break cue) received a few months back. This would in theory ban all other manufacturers from selling them unless they came to a licensing arrangement for the patent.

I could be wrong but I'm guessing this patent may be the core reason behind the McDermott purchase. Perhaps they are hoping they have the muscle to effectively enforce the patent and corner the market in phenolic jump/break cues, at least in the US market.
 
AuntyDan said:
Perhaps they are hoping they have the muscle to effectively enforce the patent and corner the market in phenolic jump/break cues, at least in the US market.
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Zero chance!!!;)
 
I believe you need to ask Bill Stock of the BCA about legal issues regarding equipment. If he says phenolic is a go, then it is acceptable on the BCA.

Richard
 
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