Pick My Shot!

[SJDinPHX]

All this started because Lou acted like god's gift to pool and belittled anyone who spoke up in favor of Hal's aiming systems. **With me though he picked the wrong person to bully...I already got "street cred" for betting my own against Lou. I already got props for standing up to this guy and getting him to the table...

So yeah, the fact of it is that I am already a winner regardless of whether I beat him or not. As for flapping my gums (or my keys in this instance) what's it to you? Did I make you open this thread? Did I make you read it? I don't think so so why are you letting it bother you so much ?

John, why are you berating Mr. Shinobi ? He is right on target !.. I MUST ask you if you realize how many hundreds of times you have repeated these exact same words,** VER BATIM ? (guesstimate, 450 times)..Do you really think ANYONE is stupid enough, to continue to read your posts ?...Most of the forum, is well past schoolyard taunting !

I must retract anything I ever said, favorably addressing your [sic] I.Q....I shall now be forced to label you, a complete, certifiable mental case !...And those are the 'kindest' words I can use !..PLEASE, seek help immediately !



Uh-oh, really looking bad now !

 

[JB Cases]

John, why are you berating Mr. Shinobi ? He is right on target !.. I MUST ask you if you realize how many hundreds of times you have repeated these exact same words,** VER BATIM ? (guesstimate, 450 times)..Do you really think ANYONE is stupid enough, to continue to read your posts ?...Most of the forum, is well past schoolyard taunting !

I must retract anything I ever said, favorably addressing your [sic] I.Q....I shall now be forced to label you, a complete, certifiable mental case !...And those are the 'kindest' words I can use !..PLEASE, seek help immediately !

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The sauce is a little thick today.

 

[shinobi]

I already got "street cred" for betting my own against Lou. I already got props for standing up to this guy and getting him to the table.

You both get "cred" from supporters on each side. Good for you both in stepping up.

So yeah, the fact of it is that I am already a winner regardless of whether I beat him or not.

You haven't even played yet and you already come across as a sore winner/loser. You are attempting to justify in advance that no matter what happens, you are awesome, and Lou is a bum.

As for flapping my gums (or my keys in this instance) what's it to you? Did I make you open this thread? Did I make you read it? I don't think so so why are you letting it bother you so much?

I didn't say it bothers me so much. I disagreed with what you wrote, and noted that you are repeating yourself endlessly. In numerous threads, certainly not only this one.

I have made a grand total of one post on the matter (2 if you count this reply). If by your standards my one post "bothers me" so much, you must have had several heart attacks by now.

I didn't bring Lou into it. So keep your facts straight.

I never said or even implied that you did. Strange comment.

 

[The Renfro]

Verbally fighting with him is like playing basketball with a retarded 3rd grader, I'm gonna win, obviously, but its hard to feel good about it.

Ohh come on now Dick is in the one pocket hall of fame......


LOL I read the bio and beating Fats 14 years past his prime and Grady in a tournament, apparently once, gets you in so that the the elks club can have their dinner and hang out at DCC that year....

So far the funniest chit he has said was criticizing DiLiberto on his one-pocket knowledge... If Dick would like to make the trip to sandcastle when Lou and John are there to play Danny, I might have to ask for part of Danny's action......

Freddy is still up in arms about Dick being inducted in anything but the UPS HOF.......

 

[SJDinPHX]

I must correct you sir,...Freddy, Billy I., Grady and Buddy Hall, are the only reason I am in the HOF...Only player's and gambler's, had ever even heard of me, and its common knowledge I did not 'campaign' for it...Nor did I lobby to be included in SMAS..(ask the author)...Nice try though !

But then, your signature line tells me how much "pool savvy" you are blessed with.. It is not worth the effort, trying to
make sense of ANYTHING you say ! (but keep trying, you're gaining on Barton )...

"I don't see the same way you do. So sit there and use your perfect vision to watch while I use my aiming system to run out"..The Renfro

PS..If I were still playing, (gave it up for good 3-4 yrs. ago) I would hop on over to (ugh) New Jersey, and I can guarantee you would NOT like going in with DD, playing one pocket..Many here know that, however, I am not surprised YOU don't.

 

[SJDinPHX]

You haven't even played yet and you already come across as a sore winner/loser. You are attempting to justify in advance that no matter what happens, you are awesome, and Lou is a bum.

I didn't say it bothers me so much. I disagreed with what you wrote, and noted that you are repeating yourself endlessly in numerous threads, certainly not only this one.<---:thumbup: !

I have made a grand total of one post on the matter (2 if you count this reply). If by your standards my one post "bothers me" so much, you must have had several heart attacks by now.

Good job Mr. Shinobi...Wish I'd said that ! (oh wait, maybe I have )

 

[JB Cases]

You both get "cred" from supporters on each side. Good for you both in stepping up.

Sorry, but no. Lou is supposed to be the dead nuts favorite. Everyone who knows him that I have spoken with believes the ONLY way he would agree to take this is if he believes he is absolutely stealing. Sorry if someone thinks they are stealing then they don't get credit for stepping up to gamble. Those of us who gamble at pool understand this. Maybe some of you who are not into that aspect of the pool culture will understand it.

That would be like saying someone is brave for betting $10,000 on a fixed horse race after getting info on the sure winner. That's not brave, it's theft.

You haven't even played yet and you already come across as a sore winner/loser. You are attempting to justify in advance that no matter what happens, you are awesome, and Lou is a bum.

I am awesome, in the eyes of my little girl, she says it often. But anyway this is your view not mine. You have misunderstood what I said. I have said that the journey so far is worth far more than the money. I wouldn't trade it and would not have met so many great folks through it. So even if I lose I am already a better person and a much better player than when I started. If Lou wins then Lou doesn't change in my opinion...Lou is Lou as the saying goes.

I didn't say it bothers me so much. I disagreed with what you wrote, and noted that you are repeating yourself endlessly. In numerous threads, certainly not only this one.

You disagreed with what? That I feel like a winner regardless of the final score? The sentiment that you addressed was actually ONLY expressed in the past couple days AFTER my trip to DCC and St. Louis where I had a great time playing one hole and meeting a bunch of great people.

I have made a grand total of one post on the matter (2 if you count this reply). If by your standards my one post "bothers me" so much, you must have had several heart attacks by now.

It's not the quantity it's the quality of your post. Which was effectively none. Again no one has forced you Clockwork Orange style to open this thread and read any of the posts. Do you stand around parties where fifty conversations are going and listen to the ones who annoy you and butt in to berate the speaker? I am guessing you don't. I am pretty sure you just walk away and find someone you find more interesting to listen and talk to.

I never said or even implied that you did. Strange comment.

Yes, you actually did because by saying I repeat myself endlessly it shows that you haven't really been paying attention. This thread is about one pocket strategy not the match. SJD brought the match and Lou into it and I addressed his comments with my NEW insight of being a winner either way. Which, to repeat, I am.

 

[SJDinPHX]

I am awesome, in the eyes of my little girl, she says it often.

That is very touching John..How old is the little tyke now, 2 or 3 ?...You had best be prepared for her getting out in the world a little..In a few years, she may be saying.."Daddy, Daddy, all the kids at school say, their daddy's say.. you are the AWESOMEST 'blowhard, windbag, braggart' they have ever seen !"

PS..I have to wonder, if Cleary and Renfro have 'little one's' too ?..That would somewhat explain their allegiance to you !

 

[Allen Brown]

That is very touching John..How old is the little tyke now, 2 or 3 ?...You had best be prepared for her getting out in the world a little..In a few years, she may be saying.."Daddy, Daddy, all the kids at school say, their daddy's say.. you are the AWESOMEST 'blowhard, windbag, braggart' they have ever seen !"

PS..I have to wonder, if Cleary and Renfro have 'little one's' too ?..That would somewhat explain their allegiance to you !

Comments like this get people banned. I hope you get the ban hammer soon.
You are way out of line with the comments about the children. You just lost what little respect I had for you.

 

[SJDinPHX]

Comments like this get people banned. I hope you get the ban hammer soon.
You are way out of line with the comments about the children. You just lost what little respect I had for you.

No sir, YOU are way out of line !..I never said one thing, that could be remotely construed, as disrespectful to ANYBODY'S children ! If I did, I would expect to be banned..You are wrapped way too tight Mr. Brown, and I resent your inference !

PS..Lets ask John Barton, if HE felt 'threatened' or 'insulted' by my obvious hypothetical scenario ?..He knows me way
better than you do !

 

[JB Cases]

That is very touching John..How old is the little tyke now, 2 or 3 ?...You had best be prepared for her getting out in the world a little..In a few years, she may be saying.."Daddy, Daddy, all the kids at school say, their daddy's say.. you are the AWESOMEST 'blowhard, windbag, braggart' they have ever seen !"

PS..I have to wonder, if Cleary and Renfro have 'little one's' too ?..That would somewhat explain their allegiance to you !

Blowhard? You mean like leaning on the fact that you beat a couple good players once to bolster your non-existent reputation?

I mean even APA2s have heard of Marshall Carpenter, Ronnie Allen, Minnesota Fats, Eddie Taylor, Weenie Beenie, Jersey Red, etc... because they have been written and talked about BY OTHERS extensively. You talk about yourself constantly. If you hadn't been inducted into the One Pocket Hall of Fame then you'd be in even more obscurity than you are now. In fact even with that induction no one knows your name unless you tell them and bring up your induction.

The difference between you and the players I named is that when one mentions that they are in any Hall of Fame the standard answer is OF COURSE THEY ARE and when one mentions you are in the Hall of Fame the standard answer is really? For what?

 

[SJDinPHX]

You talk about yourself constantly.<--Wrong, I talk about YOU constantly :sorry: If you hadn't been inducted into the One Pocket Hall of Fame then you'd be in even more obscurity than you are now...

...The difference between you and the players I named is that when one mentions that they are in any Hall of Fame the standard answer is OF COURSE THEY ARE and when one mentions you are in the Hall of Fame the standard answer is really? For what?

Once again John, you seem to have missed a key post, http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=4590405&postcount=65
where I explained it to one of your fans !

The only one who keeps bringing up the HOF, is YOU !...Show me one post where I have initiated the topic ?..You can't, because there aren't ANY !..YOU have single handedly, brought me out of obscurity..Thanks for nothing..Obscurity was
fine with me !

PS..John, all kidding aside..Please address Mr Brown's post (#69) wherein he claims I insulted your little girl !

 

[JB Cases]

Once again John, you seem to have missed a key post, http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=4590405&postcount=65
where I explained it to one of your fans !

The only one who keeps bringing up the HOF, is YOU !...Show me one post where I have initiated the topic ?..You can't, because there aren't ANY !..YOU have single handedly, brought me out of obscurity..Thanks for nothing..Obscurity was
fine with me !

PS..John, all kidding aside..Please address Mr Brown's post (#69) wherein he claims I insulted your little girl !

You are correct. I made you famous.

 

[cleary]

PS..I have to wonder, if Cleary and Renfro have 'little one's' too ?..That would somewhat explain their allegiance to you !

First of all, DICK, I don't have an allegiance to JB, I just don't like you. I'm not friends with JB, I don't have an allegiance… I just think you're full of shit. You're clearly senile and at your age, that's expected I guess. But more than that, you're just mad. Again, that's expect since your idea of a good time is going to bingo and picking up these chicks.

Second off, talking about peoples children is off limits so I would do yourself a favor and shut your mouth.

 

[Spimp13]

Chic with the curls is hot...oops, meant to delete the post but hit submit on accident.

 

[Allen Brown]

PS..John, all kidding aside..Please address Mr Brown's post (#69) wherein he claims I insulted your little girl ![/B][/QUOTE]

SJD, where in my reply did I say anything about insulting John's daughter? I mentioned children.....not a specific child.

You used a quote from his daughter talking to other school mates to insult him. I can address this myself.

 

[SJDinPHX]

Again, that's expected since your idea of a good time is going to bingo and picking up these chicks.

Oh, you mean chicks like this ?..Sorry Cleary, they wouldn't give you the time of day ?.. You better hope when you are 80, you are having as much fun !

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PS..You and Brown need to have a serious conversation about kids..You are both equally clueless !..By the way, in the last picture, that is my bodyguard coming to rescue me..Sometimes my fans get a little too exuberant !

 

[cleary]

I think I'd rather have the bingo girls than the busted trailer girls you're dancing with. Do you get a senior discount?

 

[shinobi]

Sorry, but no. Lou is supposed to be the dead nuts favorite. Everyone who knows him that I have spoken with believes the ONLY way he would agree to take this is if he
believes he is absolutely stealing.

Do you often make $10,000+ bets that you assume you will lose? Where do you draw the line between "gamble" and stupidity?

I would agree with you that the experience overall is a great thing for you (and you might feel it's even worth more than the amount of money lost, should that happen). If that's all you meant by it earlier then I take back what I said about being a sore winner/loser.

The disagreeing part is -- I don't agree with the implication that it's lose-lose for Lou. If he wins, even if he was "supposed" to win, he just took a bunch of cash from someone he doesn't like. Pretty satisfying! ...and doesn't hurt his "cred" one bit :thumbup:

For what it's worth, I don't have any preference for who wins. It's an interesting match up and I look forward to it. Good luck.

 

[JB Cases]

Do you often make $10,000+ bets that you assume you will lose? Where do you draw the line between "gamble" and stupidity?

I would agree with you that the experience overall is a great thing for you (and you might feel it's even worth more than the amount of money lost, should that happen). If that's all you meant by it earlier then I take back what I said about being a sore winner/loser.

The disagreeing part is -- I don't agree with the implication that it's lose-lose for Lou. If he wins, even if he was "supposed" to win, he just took a bunch of cash from someone he doesn't like. Pretty satisfying! ...and doesn't hurt his "cred" one bit :thumbup:

For what it's worth, I don't have any preference for who wins. It's an interesting match up and I look forward to it. Good luck.

Well you don't have to agree. Bit I have a different perspective and different analysis based on conversations with people who know him these past few weeks. Yes of course he gets credit for stepping up for 10k but not as much as me because he thinks he is stealing.

I don't make any bets that I know I will lose I make bets where there is a shot to win. I don't go in and steal from helpless players either.

Frankly I just reporting the general consensus that Lou and his backers think they are flat out stealing or they would not be in this. Maybe Lou still thinks he is stealing or maybe he thinks I have a shot, I don't know what he thinks other than what he has put on here.

What I do know is that I have seen him dog it and I know he is being backed while I am betting my own. So I don't carry the weight of losing anyone else's money. Nor do I carry the weight of being made the can't-lose favorite by a One Pocket hall of famer.

Has he gotten any better in the past five months? Maybe but from what I have seen he does nothing special that I can't handle. Have I gotten better? Yes I have.
Go back and read what I wrote. This has been a journey for me and it will continue to be a journey after I have stepped on the stone called Lou Figueroa. I might slip and get my feet wet but I will step on him nonetheless and keep on walking.

Out of the two of us he might get the cash but I made dozens of new friends some of them for life. But he ain't getting the cash either.