Piloted vs non-piloted. Risks?

kavik79

kavik79

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So, I've got here a shaft with a flat face/non-piloted 5/16x18 Joint
Trying to find a new butt to mate it too and everything I find with that thread has a piloted joint.

I've talked to a few different people and everyone has a different opinion on whether or not this is a safe combination. One person tells me they've used a stick this was forever and had no issues. Others have said it's definitely a no-go.

If there are risks of damage, are the risks to the shaft, the butt or both??


I'm also wondering if there's any sort of threaded collar I could thread onto the butt to fill the pilot and make a flat face on it? Or just fill it with some sort of an epoxy or something?

Or is it possible to have a joint on a butt changed? I'd imagine it could be done...but I'm obviously no expert :rolleyes:


Any info would be appreciated. Any specifics about changing out the joint and costs involved could be PMed

Thanks in advance :)
 
It's no problem. With the cheap cues, the pilot doesn't do anything for alignment anyway. Just decoration.:lol:
 
Alignment aside, no worries about any extra stress on the pin, as long as i don't do anything stupidly abusive, like smacking it sideways against something, right?

And will there be any noticeable difference in feel without that direct wood to wood contact surface?
 
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kavik79 said:
Alignment aside, no worries about any extra stress on the pin, as long as i don't do anything stupidly abusive, like smacking it sideways against something, right?

And will there be any noticeable difference in feel without that direct wood to wood contact surface?[/QUOTE]

without the the pilot the only things touching are wood to wood:confused:
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bbb said:
kavik79 said:
Alignment aside, no worries about any extra stress on the pin, as long as i don't do anything stupidly abusive, like smacking it sideways against something, right?

And will there be any noticeable difference in feel without that direct wood to wood contact surface?[/QUOTE]

without the the pilot the only things touching are wood to wood:confused:
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Wood to wood certainly isn't the only thing touching. You have the threaded brass insert tightly screwed on the steel threaded stud. :smile:

Makes it as solid as any piloted joint.
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bbb said:
kavik79 said:
Alignment aside, no worries about any extra stress on the pin, as long as i don't do anything stupidly abusive, like smacking it sideways against something, right?

And will there be any noticeable difference in feel without that direct wood to wood contact surface?[/QUOTE]

without the the pilot the only things touching are wood to wood:confused:
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I just meant in that there would be a hollow gap on part of it, not solid contact on the full surface

Again, it seemed to me like it shouldn't be a big deal, but a couple responses I got were just so very adamant that it was such a terrible idea, I figured I better get a few more opinions.

Thanks, I'll go ahead and order the stick I was looking at with the piloted butt and just go with it

thanks all
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