Playin with Headphones

I just bought sennsiheiser innerear headphones and love them! I tried every pair inmotions had while waiting on a flight. They have an inner ear wing that keeps them from falling out! They are water proof from sweat and cord has kevlar. Tried the monsters like dippy but bad reviews for breaking and poor comfort made me get the adidas -sennsiheiser ones

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Routing earbud wires

I can't see myself wearing headphones at the pool hall. I like earbuds.

I usually run the earbud wire up, over and around the back of the ear and then let it hang down my back. The crease on the top of the ear "grabs" the wire and the buds don't fall out easily if something happens to catch the wire briefly. I usually have no problems this way.

I have also run the wires down the front, under my shirt and over my T-shirt. That works too, and is easier to deal with if you waqnt to take the ear buds in and out for short periods of time.
 
elvicash said:
Blackballed - Some people are loud or insensitive intentionally this has been called "sharking". This should not be allowed in tournament. However this is really subjective and somewhat hard to enforce. I just played Tim Heath in a tournament he is a walking talking shark tank he is always loud and frequently out of hand. Tim does anything possibleto distract or break the opponents focus. This is not only during my turn at the table but during his as well, believe me some headphones would have helped to equalize the game, I just wanted to lay my best game whch I did not do during the match. A method to allow people to actually play the game and not be distracted by this and other activiities in the room or tournament wold be allowing the use of head phones or noise cancelling devices.



Do you think there are illegal instructions in the music or coming over the headphones?

Do you think a player will not pay appropriate attention due to the headphones?

Exactly what is the use/value of making headphones illegal?
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Can't imagine playing Earl without them lmao
 
elvicash said:
Blackballed - Some people are loud or insensitive intentionally this has been called "sharking". This should not be allowed in tournament. However this is really subjective and somewhat hard to enforce. I just played Tim Heath in a tournament he is a walking talking shark tank he is always loud and frequently out of hand. Tim does anything possibleto distract or break the opponents focus. This is not only during my turn at the table but during his as well, believe me some headphones would have helped to equalize the game, I just wanted to lay my best game whch I did not do during the match. A method to allow people to actually play the game and not be distracted by this and other activiities in the room or tournament wold be allowing the use of head phones or noise cancelling devices.



Do you think there are illegal instructions in the music or coming over the headphones?

Do you think a player will not pay appropriate attention due to the headphones?

Exactly what is the use/value of making headphones illegal?
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Obviously there are as many situational variables as there are pool-players...and it sounds like Heath is a real charmer.

My main issue with headphone use is the communication difficulty. Games have been lost by bad hits that were not judged because the player shooting did not acknowledge the opponent wanting a pause/ ref.
 
elvicash said:
Do you think there are illegal instructions in the music or coming over the headphones?

Do you think a player will not pay appropriate attention due to the headphones?

Exactly what is the use/value of making headphones illegal?
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I'm betting that part of the reason for not allowing headphones is the possibiity of folks having cellphones connected to them, and getting "assistance" in the form of coaching and such. While it should be a reasonably easy determination, many folks play their music on their phones, and probably a lot of TD's aren't interested in becoming so tech savvy that they can figure out which are simply players vs which are phones. Thus it's simpler to not allow them at all, and not have to worry about figuring it out on a case by case basis.

Just a guess. I've never heard a reason described.

So far as communications issues, I think that's BS, as well. As I suggested earlier, if the wearer is actually paying attention to the match, if any communication is necessary, the wearer will see his opponent speaking to him and can simply take out one of his earbuds. Heck, the wearer might just take one out when not shooting as a regular course. That's what I think I'd do.

I have resisted wearing headphones because I don't want to become dependant on them, and APA doesn't allow them at their events. (On our regular league nights it isn't enforced, but any state tourney will prohibit them, or heaven help me, Vegas.) I have been tempted several times, from a concentration standpoint.

It doesn't matter to me what kind of music is being played on the jukebox, I've heard and/or played (between DJing and drumming) pretty much everything before, so music stopped phasing me years ago. I like the idea of drowning out the chatter around the table. THAT distracts me. I know, I need to train myself better. A work in progress...
 
justadub said:
So far as communications issues, I think that's BS, as well. As I suggested earlier, if the wearer is actually paying attention to the match, if any communication is necessary, the wearer will see his opponent speaking to him and can simply take out one of his earbuds. Heck, the wearer might just take one out when not shooting as a regular course. That's what I think I'd do.
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I find them disrespectful to the game and I shouldn't have to repeat myself twice, which ends up being repeated 3 or 4 or 5 times before the lout wearing the headphones understands I'm speaking to him/her. If the wearer sees their opponent speaking to them, then it's already too late.

Wearing headphones during a match is just as bad as yapping on the cell phone while driving. Not sure why humans insist on trying to multitask distractions when we are totally incapable of doing it.
 
Derek said:
I find them disrespectful to the game and I shouldn't have to repeat myself twice, which ends up being repeated 3 or 4 or 5 times before the lout wearing the headphones understands I'm speaking to him/her. If the wearer sees their opponent speaking to them, then it's already too late.

Wearing headphones during a match is just as bad as yapping on the cell phone while driving. Not sure why humans insist on trying to multitask distractions when we are totally incapable of doing it.
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Ridiculous statement.....wearing headsets is eliminating distractions.

God forbid YOU have to say something twice. What if I had a hearing disability? I cannot play with YOU because you may have to repeat yourself? I have said it before and I'll say it again. Playing 8 ball and 14.1, yes you need to communicate. Playing 9 ball and 10 ball, there is nothing you need to say to me while I am shooting or while you are shooting. If you are talking to me while I am shooting then I find that disrespectful to the game. There is a place and time for things. I guess we can agree on that.
 
Derek said:
I find them disrespectful to the game and I shouldn't have to repeat myself twice, which ends up being repeated 3 or 4 or 5 times before the lout wearing the headphones understands I'm speaking to him/her. If the wearer sees their opponent speaking to them, then it's already too late.

Wearing headphones during a match is just as bad as yapping on the cell phone while driving. Not sure why humans insist on trying to multitask distractions when we are totally incapable of doing it.
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I agree with you, that people should be paying attention in their match.

But if you're gonna be that strongly against someone who is wearing headphones, you'd also better be that vehement against the "lout" who just happens to be looking the other way, and not paying attention when you spoke. Can you honestly say that every opponent that you've ever played that ISN'T wearing headphones is paying rapt attention, and that you didn't have to speak twice to make an important distinction?

Again, I agree with you about opponents paying attention to the match at hand. I just don't think headphones have to take away from that, if the wearer is concientious enough to take one out so he can hear if he needs to. The headphones are for the part of the game when you're shooting, not when you're watching your opponent.
 
ShootingRazbone said:
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Ridiculous statement.....wearing headsets is eliminating distractions.

God forbid YOU have to say something twice. What if I had a hearing disability? I cannot play with YOU because you may have to repeat yourself? I have said it before and I'll say it again. Playing 8 ball and 14.1, yes you need to communicate. Playing 9 ball and 10 ball, there is nothing you need to say to me while I am shooting or while you are shooting. If you are talking to me while I am shooting then I find that disrespectful to the game. There is a place and time for things. I guess we can agree on that.
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I have no problem saying something twice but if I'm repeating myself continuously, then it's an issue. And this isn't about hearing disabilities, it's about people wearing headphones listening to music. I'm not talking to the person while they are actually in the process of shooting, it's the communication in-between turns at the table.

Yes, there is communication in 9 and 10 ball. Maybe not much but it's there. I guess if anything, the player wearing headphones should check with their opponent that it's okay to wear them.

I find people who wear headphones a distraction themselves.
 
justadub said:
But if you're gonna be that strongly against someone who is wearing headphones, you'd also better be that vehement against the "lout" who just happens to be looking the other way, and not paying attention when you spoke. Can you honestly say that every opponent that you've ever played that ISN'T wearing headphones is paying rapt attention, and that you didn't have to speak twice to make an important distinction?
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No. There are those who don't pay attention without the headphones. I'm sure I'm guilty of it a time or two or three or more.

The issues I have had is the shooter becomes oblivious to some table manners. They get in their groove not paying attention to the tables by them, maybe interfere with someone else trying to take a shot. "Excuse me . . . excuse me . . . (tap on the shoulder) . . . EXCUSE ME", and then they look all perturned because their Dr. Dre song was interrupted even though they were being rude in the first place.

Or they commit some foul on the table, walk away, not looking at you, and you want to confirm that it was a foul, and end up repeating yourself over and over until they acknowledge you.

Just because you may have to repeat yourself to someone who isn't wearing headphones doesn't justify that it's okay to wear them. They are a distraction and I don't like them and I perceive them as bad table manners. If it's just practice, then rock it out.
 
I've never considered using earphones or headphones to play pool, because the WPA rules forbid use of them in tournament play. Plus my balance isn't always that good so earplugs or earphones would (and do) affect my stability.

I guess the worse the music is in a snooker or pool club, the more of a challenge I relish to zone out the distraction.

Although when I go into my home club (Rack N Roll, Leicester for any English folk) I love the Absolute 80's/Classic Rock radio stations. 1980's music sucks generally but it is so much more agreeable with me because it isn't offensive to the ears at all. I still can zone out more often than not, but I do not have to worry if I do end up listening to it because it isn't offensive music :)
 
Houstoer said:
Does anyone else find it hard to play nowdays with the really loud crap music most pool rooms or bars have on? It gives me a headache in no time. does anyone play in headphones listening to what they consider good music? Sorry but just can't deal with real loud rap and very heavy metal music.
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I usually take my iPod with me with some high dollar ear buds that cancel out noise and have good sound quality. Juuuust in case I walk into a bar or pool hall and someone's playing some Plies or Katie Perry song...or some other nonsense.

If no music is playing, I'll usually go drop some money in and pick what I want to listen to.
 
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