As the player who just hit the winning shot who’s cue ball is still rolling even if nowhere near a pocket, if you don’t know your opponent, you don’t risk it and you let the ball roll to a stop.
Playing 9 ball tournament dilemma?
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Was it stated in the tournament rules that this is conceding the match?
Agree. Where i play its automatic loss when you unscrew. Sure in a perfect world the shooter should have waited til ball stopped but this splitting hairs to the max. Such a nitty deal.
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OverTheNut
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This. Just don't touch any moving balls!
We've probably all done this:
You play a bad shot and the cue ball is steaming towards the pocket you are right by - you instinctively go to grab it but by some miracle it doesn't actually go in. Your hand was right there though...
I've long since lost that instinct. Just walk away and let the ball-return do the work.
There are lots of rules. I hope the TD was using a standard set.
Many TDs aren't into having an actual official set of rules. They prefer to deal with situations as the come up. Two related experiences:
Playing nine ball with the three foul rule in a small weekly tournament, my opponent is on a foul. I pocket the 3 and play a killer safety on the 4 ball. He fouls again and I say, "You're on two." He says, "Let's ask the TD." The TD says because I made a ball, my opponent is off his foul. That same TD wouldn't bother to tell 3rd and 4th place that they were due some money if they didn't ask. And he expected a tip from the winner.
I was talking to a room owner who ran a lot of regional pro events. A new set of pro rules had just been adopted and I mentioned them. He remarked that he preferred to not have the rules be too complete. He wanted some wiggle room as a TD so he could jerk the obnoxious players around as needed.
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I'm sure this "don't touch the cue ball" rule has been around for longer than I can remember, but I don't recall its ever affecting a match until Karl Boyes invoked it against Shannon Daulton in the 2015 U. S. Open, on a ball that OBVIOUSLY WASN'T GOING TO SCRATCH. Daulton was comfortably ahead at the time, but the nitty call unnerved him, and IIRC he didn't win another game. I realize that rules often have to override common sense, and I understand the reason for this particular rule, but in some cases a nit call is just a nit call. It's on a par with the time Efren was called out for not calling a 10 ball on a straight in shot that was about 2 ft. from the pocket, a shot he makes 1000 times out of 1000.
In one of the Euro runaways in the Mosconi Cup, the Euro guy threw his stick on the table after the final nine ball of the tournament. Of course the cue ball came around and hit the stick. Nothing was said, and it probably was for the best. I think the score was like 11-4. No more torture was needed.
You know Marcel would have injected himself into that moment.
According to the WPA and the ACS (they use the same rules) when your opponent uncorks in the last game, you WIN/Period.... it means they concede the game/match. If they rule it another way, then you're dealing with local league, politics.
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If she sunk the 9 ball and scratched isn't that a automatic loss?
Maybe I'm remembering my 9 ball rules wrong.
9-ball on the foot spot with ball in hand - a virtual loss, but you have the option to require the player to shoot it.
Spots up with ball in hand. Most players would concede it to you. Him pulling balls up could be considered inappropriately assuming she concedes or it could be him remembering the rules wrong.
If he pulls balls out that shouldn’t be there then I think it’s no foul because he didn’t disturb the actual layout of the table. Even if the cueball pulled out of the pocket contacted an object ball, I wouldn’t call foul. It is a foul for the cueball (in hand) to disturb an object ball but in this case these balls are not supposed to be there so their movement doesn’t affect the official layout of the table and cannot be “disturbed”. The cueball is “in hand” until the tip strikes it. So if he does hit the cueball with the tip, I call foul.
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No. the 9b spots and its bih.
I agree it’s supposed to be ball in hand and 9 on the spot but I’ve never played anyone that makes you do that shot. Interesting to have other opinions on whether him taking the other balls does or doesn’t constitute a foul. I assumed it did, a bit like conceding the game like that when someone has an easy 9. But you reasoning does sort of make sense, maybe the ref should have ruled that he make the shot?
Either way I still think she sunk very low with that move
tomatoshooter
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I can be a sore loser at times but that is pathetic. At least she won the "World's Biggest Nit" award.
tomatoshooter
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I saw someone pull balls out of the pockets while the cue ball was in motion after sinking the 9. One of the balls contacted the cue ball and a fould was called.