Playing 9 ball tournament dilemma?

A while back I remember reading a thread around here about calling fouls on oneself. There were a lot of posters talking about rules and honor and how they always call fouls on themselves.

In this thread we have a lot of posters who's general outlook is well, rules are rules but they're an ahole nit for calling it.


I'd like to see a venn diagram of the two threads.
 
Cuedup said:
A while back I remember reading a thread around here about calling fouls on oneself. There were a lot of posters talking about rules and honor and how they always call fouls on themselves.

In this thread we have a lot of posters who's general outlook is well, rules are rules but they're an ahole nit for calling it.


I'd like to see a venn diagram of the two threads.
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The grabbing the ball while it was moving is only an issue during a game. When the opponent took his cue apart, he conceded the game, so anything that happens after that is moot. While the shooter did violate a rule, they did not violate a rule during a game. Whoever made the call made a bad one to replay the game.

I think the following the rule thing is not so much what we would do, but if someone did violate a rule like that, there is no need to get mad if someone enforced it, even though they would be thought of as a nit.
 
Jason Shaw did this against Gorst. He missed the object ball and the cue ball was heading for the 5 and he grabbed and fired it to other side of the table. I feel he should have lost the game but he got his wrist slapped.

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RD123 said:
Jason Shaw did this against Gorst. He missed the object ball and the cue ball was heading for the 5 and he grabbed and fired it to other side of the table. I feel he should have lost the game but he got his wrist slapped.

Around 1:11
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That's 1:11:00 or so. Kicking at the 4, was about to hit the 5. I agree with you and the commentators. Should be loss of game.
 
RD123 said:
Jason Shaw did this against Gorst. He missed the object ball and the cue ball was heading for the 5 and he grabbed and fired it to other side of the table. I feel he should have lost the game but he got his wrist slapped.

Around 1:11

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That was pretty egregious. I don't like it even when the cue ball will obviously stop before contact. I don't know if it was frustration or that the 5 was a little tricky to get on so he didn't want it moved. There definitely should have been a penalty. He was giving up ball in hand anyway, so he basically went unpunished.
 
Euroficials would have been right on it but to me it was inconsequential. Yeah the unforseen could've worked out all kinds of ways - collusion included; but Ken Schuman played it wisely enough. Foul is a foul after all.
In racing, officials can penalize offenders post game and maybe something like that would've been appropriate. (?)
 
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For the op, why would you touch the cue ball before it stops? Just the same, I thought your opponent was grasping for a cheap victory, but why touch the cue ball? It gives him a chance to be the ass he was.
 
It appears they both had a brain fart and it turned into an argument about who farted first.

Both stink
 
I'm sure OP knows reaching for a moving ball is a dummy move. We get in bad habits practicing alone or playing with friends and it can come back to bite us.

Never-the-less, the TD did something between taking the easy way out or outright favoring the player that was unscrewing. When they did that the game was over, no way for the other person to foul. If balls are all over the table and the other player starts unscrewing in the final game, done deal the match is over.

Realizing that we are hearing one side of the story I have to say that the TD might have been dealing with conflicting stories. If that happens, and without a trusted witness or two, then a redo might be appropriate. There was a lot going on in a short time seems like.

Hu
 
What if your opponent doesn't have a two-piece stick? Then he sets the que down against the wall or back in the rack?😉
 
SeniorTom said:
What if your opponent doesn't have a two-piece stick? Then he sets the que down against the wall or back in the rack?😉
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That was the move when we all shot with house sticks, right?

Lean it against the wall with some dejected body language. It was like magic.!
 
Blitzface said:
In a recent 9 ball tournament. At the end of the run I pocketed the nine, my opponent takes apart his cue, right afterward I stopped the cue ball
from hitting the rail. He called foul as I stopped the cueball from possibly scratching ( which it wasn't). I explained that once he broke his cue, the game was over. The admin stated we were both in fault and had to replay the rack...... Do YOU agree with the Admin? Appreciate any feedback!
Regds,"blitzface"
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Exactly when did he unscrew? Did he unscrew while the CB was still rolling (that’s the assumption based on the limited info)? If so, then it can be argued that the concession doesn’t actually take into effect until after the shot is completely over, or when the CB stops rolling, and it is a legal shot. But because you touched the CB while it was still rolling, then the foul actually takes precedence over the concession, since the concession was made with the assumption that the shot would end up being legal.

Not saying this is what I would have ruled as the tournament director, but if I was hired to be the lawyer of your opponent, that’s the case I’d make on his behalf.
 
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