Playing better players

scratchs said:
I took a couple young'ens an showed them a few things...now I have a hard time beating them...but their 25yrs younger...with better eyes..still enjoy explaining the game...now if I could just get them to park their egos a little...their not ready for deep water yet..but they do know who the big guns in town are...lol.
There are times I wonder what happend too..lol
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God bless you and those like you, this is what it's all about!! I had the good fortune of being taught how to play by 100 ball-runners in a variety of games...guys who were gambling in the 40s, 50s and 60s. They saw natural talent and an intense interest in the game with me, so they took the time to coach me in some of the finer points of the game...would have taken me years to stumble across the stuff they gave me for free, everything from banks to cue ball control to reading a table to cinching combos/caroms, etc.

Now I love to show younger players a couple of tricks, nothing better than seeing the light go on when you ask them a loaded question about a shot they just screwed up, then teach them a new tool they'll use for life. I'll bet those two twenty-somethings that are giving you a hard game now will someday pay it forward, teaching those same tools to a newer generation. And I GUARANTEE you they will remember where they learned it.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
I just show them lots of respect. I don't usually gamble because it's hard to gauge your true level when getting weight. However, I do buy table time often w/ better players (and sometimes lots of cigarettes).
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Spider,
Now that you listed the answer to JoeyA's question I know how to answer your questions. Did I say that right?
You need some time/practice with a player away from these guys so you can improve your game. Do not play them for a while, until you get your practice time in! Watch some DVD's of good One Pocket players. Get some input from JoeyA!!! good luck. Keep me informed!
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
I played a lot of pool with Neptune Joe Frady back in the '80s(Joe was and maybe still is a world class player)who played much better then me. I studied every move he made and learned a lot. I truly believe that the time i spent with him moved my game up a full level. I played good enough at the time so I didn't need to ask a lot of questions ,I just absorbed every thing he did and incorporated it into my game.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
I think getting weight ruins my game and especially my mindset. I like to play the best people possible for experience. I never agreed that playing for cash adds pressure unless you're betting enough to really mean anything. If I'm betting enough to actually mean something, I want to be stealing. If I want to truly gamble, I'd go to the casino or buy Facebook stock. I like to make money...not gamble. Some call that nitty...I just call it smart. Playing for small amounts is like playing for free...and I'd rather try my heart out even for free and buy cigs and time. If I had extra money to blow, donating in a pool match is near the bottom of my list.

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I think you would be the exception. I have played a number of champions with weight and I get a lot out of it. I have also played champions even just fooling around and that was all it turned out to be. They won't even try, there is no reason to. You play say a Danny DiLiberto, I am talking a number of years ago when Danny was much younger, one pocket getting say 11 to 6 if it is a game he has to try at to win and you will most definitely get something out of it, actually so will he.

Playing meaningless games with players who outclass you so much they are doing you a favor just playing is useless in my opinion and a total bore for them.
 
I enjoy playing those that are better than I am.

Trouble is, I have to drive several hundred miles to find anyone. ;) :grin:
 
I think playing better players really helps me improve. I just started a weekly tournament, just so that I can play and watch better players. Hopefully I can absorb some information.
 
The best pool "lesson" I ever had was with a better player at a room on Ventura Blvd. somewhere around Sherman Oaks, CA.

After playing 9 ball for hours at $2 a rack, I ended up gladly losing $42.

After the game, he said, "Play as good as you can for as cheap as you can."
 
I like playing someone better then me, that will kick my azz. But they need to miss at least once every couple of games. I don't get any practice in if they run racks all the time.

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On one of Jimmy Reids cds he say to not play players who are much stronger than you. "You will only learn to lose."
That considered I feel it is beneficial to occasionally practice with a strong player. You can get more mentally immersed in the game and begin to see why they do things certain ways . Where as, if you just observe them practicing or playing someone else YOU are not fully mentally engaged.
 
macguy said:
I think you would be the exception. I have played a number of champions with weight and I get a lot out of it. I have also played champions even just fooling around and that was all it turned out to be. They won't even try, there is no reason to. You play say a Danny DiLiberto, I am talking a number of years ago when Danny was much younger, one pocket getting say 11 to 6 if it is a game he has to try at to win and you will most definitely get something out of it, actually so will he.

Playing meaningless games with players who outclass you so much they are doing you a favor just playing is useless in my opinion and a total bore for them.
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I play well enough where it's not a "bore."

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measureman said:
I played a lot of pool with Neptune Joe Frady back in the '80s(Joe was and maybe still is a world class player)who played much better then me. I studied every move he made and learned a lot. I truly believe that the time i spent with him moved my game up a full level. I played good enough at the time so I didn't need to ask a lot of questions ,I just absorbed every thing he did and incorporated it into my game.
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I first met Joe at the 2000 PA State 9ball. That event was almost like a US Open... Jose Garcia, Busty, Efren, Hopkins, Mike Lebron and a collection of other players played. When I asked who Joe was, someone said "That's Neptune." I really liked his style....a lot.

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