TheThaiger
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And is this not it?
Playing Safe In 8Ball or 9Ball
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And is this not it?
Firing away at everything, without any semblance of a reasonable chance of success, isn't a good method of learning how to play. At least it isn't to me.
I don't think you and I are talking about the same thing. It's not like the folks I play with are playing safe multiple times a game, or anything like that. I would venture to guess that if both players played a real safe attempt each in the same game, it would be rare. One attempt per game would probably be a little on the high side, depending on rolls and such. It's there, when appropriate. Not like anyone is trying to 3-foul anyone else, if that's what you're envisioning...
I only disagree with your followup post.
But, readin everything now, I 100% agree with the friend and would have walked out too. If the OP wants my reasoning, he can pm me. He'll understand. Most people on this thread won't. It's the dynamic of the friend and situation I was trying to wrap my hands around. I got it now.
Freddie <~~~ no safeties, walking out of the game
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I look at playing safes, improving your pool game tremendouly. If you get mad when u play safe. You shouldn't play pool period. Thats the way the game goes,plain and simple.
For eight ball, nine ball and ten ball, I would like to see a rule---
if you miss a ball, incoming player has ball in hand.
And the worst rule is---
the three foul rule, loss of game.
You should never be able to lose a game because of a three foul rule.
Worst rule ever in the game of pool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Plus---no jump cues allowed...nothing but a cheater stick.:smile:
if you miss a ball, incoming player has ball in hand.
And the worst rule is---
the three foul rule, loss of game.
You should never be able to lose a game because of a three foul rule.
Worst rule ever in the game of pool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Plus---no jump cues allowed...nothing but a cheater stick.:smile:
I haven't played in a league since the early 90's and then there was no such thing as ball in hand after a scratch or a foul. Safety play was a no brainer if the table dictated. But ball in hand was exclusively for 9 ball. In the leagues now is ball in hand standard? I really don't know since I play only 9 ball & 10 ball and 1 Pocket.
For me, the answer would be it all depends. Sometimes all of the above!!! Im learning the safety aspect of pool, and I know when and how to execute them, the execution still lacks sometimes though. But the reason I say it depends is, In a match I will take the shots I am comfortable with and that includes the safeties should that be the right course of action. In practice I am more likely to take the lower percentage shot (which also includes the safeties) Just to give it a try, attempt to make it, see what I need to work on. That all being said I think that safety play is an integral part of the pool game in general.
Those are my 2.5 cents for what they are worth
Those are my 2.5 cents for what they are worth
bozak007
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No prob
I don't see the big deal in playing safe. I have a rule if I have ball in hand and I feel there is a 70% chance of running out I will play safe until I'm at least 80%. Unless you are playing against someone who you know will give you another chance at the table play safe. If someone ducks and leaves you with a hook 2 times in a row you know they have respect for you're game and don't want to take any chances against you. Feel honored and not pass up a chance to go to Denny's
I don't see the big deal in playing safe. I have a rule if I have ball in hand and I feel there is a 70% chance of running out I will play safe until I'm at least 80%. Unless you are playing against someone who you know will give you another chance at the table play safe. If someone ducks and leaves you with a hook 2 times in a row you know they have respect for you're game and don't want to take any chances against you. Feel honored and not pass up a chance to go to Denny's
Actually, really strong opponents will go after more difficult outs if they respect your game. If they think you are weak at kick safes, they will play more safes.I don't see the big deal in playing safe. I have a rule if I have ball in hand and I feel there is a 70% chance of running out I will play safe until I'm at least 80%. Unless you are playing against someone who you know will give you another chance at the table play safe. If someone ducks and leaves you with a hook 2 times in a row you know they have respect for you're game and don't want to take any chances against you. Feel honored and not pass up a chance to go to Denny's
bozak007
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So I guess I can't have an opinion as well
But for a buck a game, I still suspect you would play like your life depended on it
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One thing I gotta ask (if it wasn't already mentioned)... did you make the balls while playing safe? Some people consider that "cheap" and feel that a shooter should never be allowed to do it in 8b. In 9 ball it's simply not allowed.
In the past when trying to work with someone who's still learning pool, I get frustrated when they won't try to run a wide open table. Probably the worst example of this is when the player leaves a 'blocker' in 8 ball. They're so desperate to avoid selling out, they would rather shoot a hard shot and miss it than shoot their "insurance" hanger, get shape, and run out. It's a chickenshit mindset and can bite them in the ass.
For money, in a tournament... or even if it's just a simple case of "loser sits out for 10 minutes", I may opt for a safe instead of trying a difficult break out. But if it's wide open and just for fun? Hell yeah, try to run out... even if you've never run 8 open balls in your life. It's an opportunity to learn how to stay focused for several shots in a row without getting out of line or missing. Running out the rack is a useful skill that is worth practicing. Make learning a higher priority than winning.
I mean, the biggest threat in pool is a guy who never lets the opponent shoot. Is your goal to become that kind of threat? Or to stay just average forever?
In the past when trying to work with someone who's still learning pool, I get frustrated when they won't try to run a wide open table. Probably the worst example of this is when the player leaves a 'blocker' in 8 ball. They're so desperate to avoid selling out, they would rather shoot a hard shot and miss it than shoot their "insurance" hanger, get shape, and run out. It's a chickenshit mindset and can bite them in the ass.
For money, in a tournament... or even if it's just a simple case of "loser sits out for 10 minutes", I may opt for a safe instead of trying a difficult break out. But if it's wide open and just for fun? Hell yeah, try to run out... even if you've never run 8 open balls in your life. It's an opportunity to learn how to stay focused for several shots in a row without getting out of line or missing. Running out the rack is a useful skill that is worth practicing. Make learning a higher priority than winning.
I mean, the biggest threat in pool is a guy who never lets the opponent shoot. Is your goal to become that kind of threat? Or to stay just average forever?
), I'll play safe if I can't make the shot otherwise. It's the only way I can make sure I get back on the table.