Playing the 7' Diamond table??

SoundWaves

SoundWaves

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I have heard nothing but good things about the diamond tables but have never played on one. Over that last year I have gone from being a 7' bar league player to playing on GC3's and having no interest in going back. In March I am going to play in a few events at Valley Forge and they apear to be held on the smaller diamond tables. I assume that they will play strait and fast and not have any of the problems that any bar table around here would have. Is there anything I should do to prepair myself? Do they play like a good 9' only smaller?
 
from what i've heard they are basically a slightly small nine footer. no bucket pockets like on a normal bar box.
 
7'proam

SW,
They play just like a 9' pro am that the pros play,
you have to hit the pocket, not too hard.
The ones that rattle don't drop.
-cOOp
 
worriedbeef said:
from what i've heard they are basically a slightly small nine footer. no bucket pockets like on a normal bar box.
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The non pro cut models don't play any harder than traditional bar boxes. You do have to adjust to the rails for banking and kicking.

The pro cut 7' Diamonds do play tougher, and will make you learn to hit slower/more accurate shots
 
I play on some really nice ones with the tight pockets once a week at league at my poolhall. As others have said, it is easy to leave a ball in the jaws. The pockets are also really deep. I have seen numerous players try to kick at the points of a pocket at a ball in the jaws that are so deep they miss the ball completely.
 
I think it was the pro I played on

I have only played on one of the Diamond seven footers. the pockets measured exactly the same as the nine footers and the rails also seemed identical. The pockets are relatively bigger just because of the shorter distances that you are shooting to them but this seemed like the finest and most honest seven footer I have ever played on. Very easy to adjust play going from nine foot Diamonds to these. Poison fast just like the big table.

Hu
 
BPG24 said:
The non pro cut models don't play any harder than traditional bar boxes. You do have to adjust to the rails for banking and kicking.
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Yes, I would suggest playing several hours on one before your play at Valley Forge. They definitely bank different than a GC3. Kicking, I think will stay the same for one railers. Two or more you will need to adjust.

BPG24 said:
The pro cut 7' Diamonds do play tougher, and will make you learn to hit slower/more accurate shots
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The pro cut are have about 1 inch deeper shelf to the pocket. Most pockets are just slightly under two balls wide. If you are playing on the non-pro, short shelf, you should have no problem making the transition between GC3's and this one.
 
klockdoc said:
The pro cut are have about 1 inch deeper shelf to the pocket. Most pockets are just slightly under two balls wide. If you are playing on the non-pro, short shelf, you should have no problem making the transition between GC3's and this one.
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Gold Crown 3's and Diamond pro cuts do not play anything alike. The GC3 pockets are much much more forgiving and will accept balls that will not go on the Diamond. The pockets are the same size, but the square cut changes the way it plays dramatically. Especially if the Diamond is new... Once it has seen alot of play and breaks in, it will become more forgiving.
 
Deep Pockets

lights_out said:
I play on some really nice ones with the tight pockets once a week at league at my poolhall. As others have said, it is easy to leave a ball in the jaws. The pockets are also really deep. I have seen numerous players try to kick at the points of a pocket at a ball in the jaws that are so deep they miss the ball completely.
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Are they as deep as the ones pictured in this thread?
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=77916&highlight=diamond+deep+pockets

Greg/Diamond replies about these pockets in posts #13 and #16

Steve

The pics in post #19 are down right scary!
 
I may be wrong but I played on the Diamond bar box a few times. It plays slightly tougher than the Valleys.

I thought the pro cuts were much tougher.

Then again, Diamond has experimented with different models.
 
7 foot Diamonds

I have owned both the 7 foot and the 9 foot Diamond pro in my home recreation room. They both play straight but unforgiving. They bank pure. I had 860 Simonis on both. I would'nt trade for any other table.

Cross-Side-Larry

PS: I am in process of converting my 9 foot Diamond Pro from a three piece slate to a one piece slate. I want to keep the drop pockets but also want to switch to a non shim leveling system to ensure the perfect slow roll for banking and one pocket games.
 
Without a doubt

No bar table on the planet that wasn't custom made to one customer's exact specifications could possibly play any better.

The table should roll perfectly and break well with fresh cloth. I have never played on a Diamond 7' and not been satisfied. If the pockets are standard size you should run out much more often than on a similar table with slight imperfections. If they are pro cut you do gain the advantage of a couple degrees variance you would not have on a 9' on every shot due to the shorter distance to the pocket, but not like buckets on a standard bar table.
 
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