Playing Under the Influence

[DelaWho???]

Drug Wars......

If there wasn't a War on Drugs......

There wouldn't be Meth dealers across the street or near schools.

There wouldn't be gang warfare over "Crack Corners".....

There Wouldn't be higher incidence of addiction.....


Sore_Aintya.......You smoke and drink coffee for the chemical effect. It might not be as pronounced now because you've built up tollerance to it. Try not drinking coffee for a week and then having a double espresso, or don't smoke for a week and then have a Pall Mall. I think you'll feel the profound effects of the drugs you are touting as having no effect (you probably mean little effect).
I don't know how old you are, but I'm old enough to remember when the drinking age was 18. When I was 16 looking like I was 18, I had an easier time getting a bag o weed or whatever other illegal drug I chose, than I did getting alcohol. The reason is because of regulation. The store owner doesn't want to lose his license for selling to a minor. Moonshine wasn't common either because you could get liquor for a reasonable price. There is a black market for liquor and cigarettes for sure, but it isn't the same as selling an illegal product, it's tax avoidance.

They're all drugs.....legal or illegal each the same from a moral standpoint, so why tell me how to live my life (by saying something is illegal) when I don't try to tell you how to live yours? That's the job of religions, not governments

McCue Banger McCue

 

[Black-Balled]

My pee is clean!!!

 

[TheOne]

I once ended up in my local snooker club extreemly drunk after a night out, of course I ended up playing snooker with a few other guys. I made a 95 break and missed a blue off the spot with the cb on the rail - I consider this one of mky greatest ever breaks given the amount of alcohol I had drunk!

 

[Brickman]

Trying to justify meth use by some half brained crack pots "statistics" doesn't help your cause, or the fact that it IS illegal.

Saying the "meth epidemic is a hysterical exaggeration" is a slight stretch, that and a few other of your comments really make it sound like you have a agenda. Which is fine, just keep it away from me and out of my neighborhood.

Ive always been a firm believer that a person is entitled to do whatever they want as long as it doesn't affect me, my family or theirs. Want to shoot smack in your arm until you pass out? Fine, knock yourself out, but before you do, please make sure your bills are paid, kids are fed and taken care of and you are not endangering those around you.

The sad fact though is that many people don't do just that. Some would rob their grandmother to get that next high. Want to blame that on prohibition? Fine, that's your right, just doesn't make it true.

DEAD ON HERE!!!! And for all those that say or believe its no big deal....why don tyou come to Tenn , and ask the families of the 2 cops here who happende to walk upon a meth lab it had exploded , and just the lingering fumes killed both of these men.

So please dont try and tell us it is Just another drug.

Also from some of the people or councellors I have spoken with about this subject, they tell me that many of the Meth addicts that get put in prison, will drink their own urine and get high. They will pick and eat the scabs on their bodies , because the scabs contain the meth that is trying to get out of their bodies. Also their is a lady around here that has been off of meth for a couple of years now, and when she coughs she gets high from the stuff still in her lungs....and Yes she has lung cancer from 3 years of smoking this crap.


So for those who want to be an advocate of drugs ...more power to you, but dont be surprised when , anyone with any amount of common sense calls you and Idiot.

 

[Brickman]

cannibis is the plant containing the (really) active ingredient tetrahydracannibinol(sp?) sometimes found in the past(1971) in highschool chemistry books as an illustration of interest to the fledging chemistry student. sometimes used as a medicinal supplement, sometimes used as, hmm what was my reasoning in those years? i forgot! we used it a lot though in hemphill,ky(a real place).

I know where hemphill is I grew up about 2 minutes from there

never smoked pot though!!!

How have you been woody? Did you see my Post about the new room in Bristol? Its Janet Atwels place, and its an awesome room, if you like Mountaincity You will love Janets place

 

[DelaWho???]

Your cop friends wouldn't have died if it weren't for the WOD. That meth lab wouldn't have been there when you could go to Happy Harrys and get what you want. You can still get plenty of moonshine in states that have dry counties in them too. How many people go blind drinking bad liquor? Not as many as rot themselves out with meth. Why? Because adults can go into the store and buy legal clean liquor which has a measure of quality control. The ones drinking shine are minors or those who drink it specifically Because it's illegal whiskey. It sure isn't for the taste.

I shouldn't have to ask for cold medicine because they have to hide it behind the counter, when I can grab a carton of smokes or dip off the shelf.
Government intervention into things of a moral nature things we call vices brings more misery than the thing that they're trying to control.

It's funny how in this country we have no problem killing an unborn human being, yet flip out when someone smokes a weed that grows in the ground.......Are you reading me tobacco smokers?????? Those of you who were all for the war on drugs and the oppression of your fellow citizens as well as peasants around the world are about to get a taste of your own medicine.

FWIW I have had family members who have been crushed under the weight of meth addiction and the legal penalties that go with that kind of life..... I have Pity for these people who have lost control of their lives. They need to be helped not locked up.
You don't hear a cry for saving the wino's from drink and a start to prohibition.....why is that? My guess is because it didn't work and the result was the rise and empowerment of organized crime families.....Anyone remember the Beer baron Al Capone? At least Fred Miller didn't sell his product to the speak easy at the point of a gun.....

Those who don't learn from history repeat it .....

McCue Banger McCue

 

[prolecat]

Isnt the whole thing about legalization due to the tax issues with it?

Ive heard that if pot is legalized, the prices would most likely increase. Look at the legal "sage" salvia, which can be smoked for a quick 5-10 minute trip. You can buy/grow this legally, and it can be found in most head shops. Its around $30-40 a gram. Thats ridiculous. They know people will pay it, because its like doing drugs, but legal.

 

[Captain Dan]

I find that as long as I have only 1-2 bourbons an hour(my speed limit ), my play is improved due to me being more relaxed .

Getting hammered, however, is totally counter-productive, as my play goes to shit, my confidence is boundless, and I'll accept any bet given if I have the money! Luckily this is a rare event, or my wife would consider divorce or my being banned for pool (can't think which would be worse )

I also smoke while playing, and this is the only time I smoke. Over a night, I might have 2 cigars, and although I can't see any effect on my play, they do affect my mood, to the better.

Daniel

 

[gregoryg]

Used to, don't anymore

When I was first getting serious about learning how to play, I never drank. After a while, people would start buying me drinks, thinking I would start to play worse. All it did was make me learn how to play while drunk. Since I have quit drinking, my game has gotten smarter, go figure.

 

[BlackDragon]

"When I was first getting serious about learning how to play, I never drank. After a while, people would start buying me drinks, thinking I would start to play worse. All it did was make me learn how to play while drunk."
Thats so funny because its so true. I know players, good players who prefer to play stoned, smoking weed and another on speed. He was the best player I've ever seen. Sometimes I drink and play and figure its training cause a lot of comps are in pubs. Other players only play straight. People are so different.
Drugs are dangerous because theyre underground so we're not getting the best drugs. Here, China I get no drugs but I can drink. Everyone looks at me as if I'm weird, drinking beer and playing pool but everyone here looks at me weird anyway. About 25% I drink and play. Most people like to party after serious comps in Australia but a lot of comps are in pubs anyway and we'll go to the carpark to get stoned. I dunno, I don't think it matters. Playing serious pool you have to be straight though but someone will say otherwise.
If youre playing pool to enjoy yourself and you drink or do stuff to enjoy yourself, they go together. If you want to win, thats your thread, its a different angle. But not everyone has to win to enjoy themselves and not everyone is hungry for money either.

 

[BillyKoda]

I shoot lights out after about 6 beers, I don't know why but after those beers I see every possible shot on the table and have the confidence to make them all. If I shoot stone cold sober it is usually a disaster, nerves and all.

BK

 

[1-pocket-player]

Sometimes when I get too nervous or feel like I have too much energy I take half of or a whole Tylenol PM. It really relaxes me and I stop missing.

I have had copius amounts of caffeine while playing long too (about 6-10 Diet cokes).

-Andy

 

[bsmutz]

DEAD ON HERE!!!! And for all those that say or believe its no big deal....why don tyou come to Tenn , and ask the families of the 2 cops here who happende to walk upon a meth lab it had exploded , and just the lingering fumes killed both of these men.

So please dont try and tell us it is Just another drug.

Also from some of the people or councellors I have spoken with about this subject, they tell me that many of the Meth addicts that get put in prison, will drink their own urine and get high. They will pick and eat the scabs on their bodies , because the scabs contain the meth that is trying to get out of their bodies. Also their is a lady around here that has been off of meth for a couple of years now, and when she coughs she gets high from the stuff still in her lungs....and Yes she has lung cancer from 3 years of smoking this crap.


So for those who want to be an advocate of drugs ...more power to you, but dont be surprised when , anyone with any amount of common sense calls you and Idiot.

I cannot believe you posted this after reading the posts above! Maybe you didn't read them. Nearly everyone in this country takes some kind of drug. The only difference between the illegal drugs and the legal drugs is who is making them and who is raking in the profits. The pharmaceutical companies can't stand the competition. They pour millions of dollars into the politicians' pockets to keep illegal drugs illegal. Yes, there are thousands of people who are addicted to methamphetamine and the carnage that is caused by it is horrible. What the intelligent people here are trying to tell you is that much of the problems we see with that particular drug could be avoided by making it legal. No more Tennesse meth labs out in the backwoods. No more prisoners drinking their urine or eating their scabs.
Now think just for a minute about the most abused drug on the planet, alcohol. How many people do you know personally that are addicted to alcohol compared to any other drug? How many people do you know personally that have had bad things happen because of their addiction to alcohol compared to the number of people that you know personally that are addicted to some other drug? I don't know anyone right now (that I'm aware of) that is addicted to anything other than alcohol. In my lifetime (53 years and counting), I would put the ratio of people I have known personally that were addicted to alcohol at least 10 to 1 over all other drugs combined. Even recreational users of alcohol (non-addicts) have a much higher ratio of having bad things happen to them than recreational users of other drugs. It is usually much easier to spot alcohol addicts, too. If you've ever observed someone coming off of alcohol addiction, it is not a pretty sight.
No one will ever be able to convince me that if I grow a marijuana plant and smoke it, that I am harming anyone but myself. I will never need to rob someone to get it. No one will come to my house to kill me because I am buying it from someone else, or kill someone else because they are selling it to me. It will not cost $30 to $40 per gram because everyone will be able to grow it (if it was legal).
I don't want you to believe me. I want you to educate yourself so that you can see things the way they really are. Find out why certain drugs are illegal and why they are being kept illegal. Read about the crime statistics in countries where all drugs are legal or regulated. Think about why terrorists are in the drug business and what would happen if drugs were legal. Don't jump on a high horse because two cops died from sniffing fumes from a drug lab. (Why were they there anyway? Shouldn't a hazmat team be doing this? Sounds like a case of carelessness and ignorance about the hazards to me.) Many fine people, including cops, have been killed by drunk motorists or drunk beligerents.

Now, to the poll. In my experience, none of the drugs I've tried seem to make much difference in my pool game when taken in moderation. I do know people who swear they shoot better after having some alcohol. I feel more relaxed after a couple of beers, but my ability goes out the window after more than a couple. Recently, I noticed that I shoot better in competition when I feel some nervousness or butterflies. If I am completely relaxed (like after 3 or 4 beers), I lose the fire that makes me want to do well. If I am really nervous, a couple of beers will help calm me down which is good for my pool game. I can't shoot worth beans if I am all jacked up on adrenaline.

 

[henho]

As far as pool, I like to play sober the most. I'll smoke some pot on occasion, which makes playing fun, but I believe people have a tendency to think they are playing better than they actually are.

I agree that the current drug laws need to be reformed and are completely ineffective, but there is a grey area between "all drugs are bad" and "all drugs aren't that bad". The discussions in this thread concerning meth are a good example. There is absolutely no reason or justification for being able to buy meth at your local drug store. Also, drug need to be regulated by the FDA in order to protect consumers. You wouldn't want to buy tylenol and learn that if you took one extra pill you are dead.

There is no simple solution to the drug problem, but I think lawmakers agree that there need to be multiple solutions. We need social programs directed at hard drugs such as meth and crack that are decimating low-income communities that will treat the problem rather than incarcerating the users. Establishing economic and educational initiatives to eliminate the desire for these hard drugs would be a good step. And as for the folks here who say that the damage of hard drugs is a myth, I'll leave you to research the abundance of evidence to the contrary.

Pot is a good example of the opposite extreme. There is absolutely no justification for it being illegal. It is safe and harmless in relation to other legal recreational substances. Its prohibition dates back to racist propoganda against mexicans at the turn of the century, and is the victim of numerous false government campaigns. The government's reluctance to legalize and regulate it is putting a large strain on our country's resources and population.

Rather than grouping drugs into one class with one solution, the circumstances surrounding each drug's use, risk factors, and effects must be scrutinized and an individual solution arrived to each one. Regardless of how many of our governments resources it takes, its worth it, and its neccessary. We have seen much more money vanish through ineffective, red-tape laden departments such as FEMA and Homeland Security.

 

[bigmanpool]

If i'm in a room that has load music playing and is very crowded i will somtimes smoke some roots & culture. It will somtimes help me focus. And somtime it makes it Harder to focus. It dependes on my mood . I have to be warmed up before i do it . If i smoke before i play i can't make a ball . Playing straight is the best way to go in the long run .

 

[gnaroz]

I like to drink. I don't make any bones about drinking while playing a tournament.

Fred

Ditto, A few years ago while in Raleigh NC for a wedding ( and A LOT of cocktails) we were @ the hotel bar after the event. We were playing doubles Eight ball on one of the bar boxes. 4 + hours later and a S**t load of bikers we still owned the table. Not really sure how but it was fun except when I started calling one of them Grizzly. Kinda down hill from there