Points?

[cueman]

Points only change the hit, tone and feel of the cue very slightly. So it probably will not affect you making the ball.

 

[dzcues]

Do you think is is better to core before or after the nose piece is spliced? It seems that the act of coring an already spliced nose piece may itself produce weaknesses that may show up in the future. Where as gluing up a nose piece with the core before splicing will be safer. The added points will intersect with the nose piece as well as the core in an interlocking manner making it a more integrated unit, not just a core and a sleeve.

I don't understand how coring afterwards would produce any weaknesses. Of course, I'm assuming accurate fits & proper gluing procedures.

On the other hand, it can be argued that a solid core with a decorative sleeve will hit more solidly & predictably than if V-grooved after coring.

And, coring afterwards allows good results with otherwise inadvisable combinations. For example, I used veneered holly points in an amboyna burl forearm. Not sure I'd want to try it the other way.

Or, it allows you to shed weight in an ebony forearm with ebony points.

I see plenty of valid reasons to do it this way & have yet to see a reason not to.

 

[rhncue]

I don't understand how coring afterwards would produce any weaknesses. Of course, I'm assuming accurate fits & proper gluing procedures.

On the other hand, it can be argued that a solid core with a decorative sleeve will hit more solidly & predictably than if V-grooved after coring.

And, coring afterwards allows good results with otherwise inadvisable combinations. For example, I used veneered holly points in an amboyna burl forearm. Not sure I'd want to try it the other way.

Or, it allows you to shed weight in an ebony forearm with ebony points.

I see plenty of valid reasons to do it this way & have yet to see a reason not to.

I do it both ways on the same forearm. I first core the forearm and install a dowel with good centers. I then taper the forearm so that it is .100 oversize. This insures that the center of the dowel is concentric with the forearm wood to insure all points will be of equal length when completed. I cut the pockets for the points, one at a time to .020 of center and glue up the point and veneers and turn all the excess off one point at a time so as to keep the stock solid. Once all is dry I mount the forearm with the lathe chuck at one end and a center rest on the other and I core about 4" deep on the handle end so that it has a solid dowel instead of a bunch of veneers at the A-joint.

Bob has perfected his technique so that his point/veneer stack is a perfect fit to the pocket he had cut in the forearm so he has no need for all of the extra work that I do. He is a very creative man when problems arise and a solution needs to be found.

Dick

 

[pdcue]

Not entirely, a half splice is a splice and when assembled into a handle it could even be argued it is more stable then a full splice. Now panographed points are another story, they are inlays and it could be argued they actually weaken the butt. I believe this was the opinion of Burton Spain.

Not exactly, it is a lamination masquerading as a splice. A splice, whether
of wood, audio tape, film, or genes, is in fact, defined as joining two pieces
together end-to-end.

Nobody ever called a cue full spliced untill people used the term half splice.

As for inlays weakening the butt, I've heard that opinion, but never from
anyone who offered any data to back it up. So I consider it to be just
another case of "womans intuition".

As usual, YMMV, and probably will.

Dale

 

[macguy]

Not exactly, it is a lamination masquerading as a splice. A splice, whether
of wood, audio tape, film, or genes, is in fact, defined as joining two pieces
together end-to-end.

Nobody ever called a cue full spliced untill people used the term half splice.

As for inlays weakening the butt, I've heard that opinion, but never from
anyone who offered any data to back it up. So I consider it to be just
another case of "womans intuition".

As usual, YMMV, and probably will.

Dale

Your right, "splice" implies joining pieces together such as, "Splice two pieces of rope together". That is not what is taking place in the construction on a short splice nose piece. It is an assembly of pieces.