Police looking for Road Player

evilmoody1 said:
I've seriously debated with myself over whether or not to start a thread about this, and I decided to take some advice from you guys about it.

An alleged crime happened at a recent overnight mini tourney for an APA event. It has seriously affected those involved and the guy the police are looking for is a road player who plays as a 7 in the APA. At this time I'm not going to post his name, but I've known him for the past few months.

He allegedly committed a violent crime against a girl that was rooming with his team for the evening.
I just want to say that the only people that know what happened for sure were in that room, but he has since completely disappeared (all his things are gone from his residence & supposedly no one has seen or heard from him)
The police are trying to locate him and are having no luck.
I will not be posting the girls name, and I'll post his name(depending on feedback) only because the police have been trying to track him down.
I'm only bringing this up because things like this happen alot, and if he did do
it,
1. I would like this not to happen in another town or state to another girl
2. The police are looking for him
3. Since he's a road player he might show up where one of you guys might see him
Please give me your feedback.
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I don't think posting his name and description and saying that police are looking to question him regarding a possible crime would be out of line. The news does it all the time. They now call them "People of interest". The pool world is very small he will be found for sure. Also, if he is innocent he need to know they are looking for him so he can come in and clear things up. It would be up to AZ if you could post something like that anyway.
 
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evilmoody1 said:
I don't believe I did say that he did the crime, only that the police are looking to question him in regards to it, which is public knowledge, and on police reports.
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True enough, but you associated this guys name as the possible culprit in a crime. I'm not going to argue whether this is libel or not, since I'm not a legal expert. That's why I'm going to ask some of my lawyer friends about it.

I just want you to be careful evilmoody1. I personally feel that you are doing the right and moral thing. This guy should be caught. I would just hate to see you get hurt in the process.
 
Mr. Wilson said:
Moral issue is whether he is innocent until proven guilty or whether public safety is so compromised by his being at large, that the community has to be notified.

The way it is presented here leads to a presumption of guilt and the need to "protect" someone from the same fate.

I'll take a step further. If you were in that room, why not tell us what you saw and or know as the facts of the matter.

If it's so bad he needs to be hunted down and shot......why wasn't it stopped by the others in the room?
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A)No one else was in the room at the time, middle of the night mini tourneys going on,
B)I did post what I saw & know, not what other people(rumors) have said
as to not muddy the waters.
 
NewGuy said:
True enough, but you associated this guys name as the possible culprit in a crime. I'm not going to argue whether this is libel or not, since I'm not a legal expert. That's why I'm going to ask some of my lawyer friends about it.

I just want you to be careful evilmoody1. I personally feel that you are doing the right and moral thing. This guy should be caught. I would just hate to see you get hurt in the process.
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TAP TAP TAP. Good post. I don't want to see evilmoody1 get in trouble either but whoever commits a violent crime needs to be captured and prevented from repeating that crime asap.
 
Well, it seems I have made my bed and must lie in it now. Personally, I feel I just posted the facts and feel it was worth it. If it keeps even one girl from staying in a room where she doesn't know who will have the key to it makes it worth it. Hopefully it will help more than it hurts.
 
I agree, you did the right thing. As long as you specifically said " he's wanted for questioning and did not start throwing around a buch of rumours. I don't think there's a problem.
 
Salamander said:
a picture of Chavez is located in the player directory here....

http://www.azbilliards.com/gallery/showpicture.cfm?eventnum=12&photographernum=1&picnum=447
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Last I heard, Chavez was living in Augusta, Ga (North Augusta, SC) and playing tournaments and gambling in that area. He must have recently moved to Illinois.

I have know him for a while, but not well enough to know anything about his character. We just spoke to each other at tournaments. If I see him around the area, I'll let someone know.

Mike
 
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Hi all, I hope this post doesn't offend anyone, especially evilmoody1.

I admire you for your courage, and your aim to help prevent other crimes to be commited by this person.

And to eveyone who suggested to you to name the person as well to the public. This may all be helpful to the police & hopefully for the better.

But 1st thing I asked myself while reading the 1st post was.."Is this about rape?"...2nd thing I asked was "Is this guy trying to damage someone(who he hates)'s name & reputation?"
Till more people in that area/city come up to support the allegation, this type of info may not be very real. (I'm sorry if this was done already, as I hope I didnt miss out on some posts relating to this)

As some mentioned before, once the bell is rung, there's no turning back, the damage is done.

Again, I am not trying to doubt anyone,but anything is possible on the internet, just to remind users for future similar posts. (Imagine your name came up one day, and it affects your marriage,career,and life itself!)

To end this post i just want to add that my wife and I both feel the true punishment that rapists deserve is to have their p#nises cut off! And thrown into prison to be forced upon!
 
This is a very tough and sensitive topic...

Either way you may be wrong or you may be right. The best thing to say is that this person is of interest to the police for information.
So let us leave it at that and later let the truth be told!
 
no offense taken at all

daddypool said:
Hi all, I hope this post doesn't offend anyone, especially evilmoody1.

I admire you for your courage, and your aim to help prevent other crimes to be commited by this person.

And to eveyone who suggested to you to name the person as well to the public. This may all be helpful to the police & hopefully for the better.

But 1st thing I asked myself while reading the 1st post was.."Is this about rape?"...2nd thing I asked was "Is this guy trying to damage someone(who he hates)'s name & reputation?"
Till more people in that area/city come up to support the allegation, this type of info may not be very real. (I'm sorry if this was done already, as I hope I didnt miss out on some posts relating to this


Again, I am not trying to doubt anyone,but anything is possible on the internet, just to remind users for future similar posts. (Imagine your name came up one day, and it affects your marriage,career,and life itself!)

To end this post i just want to add that my wife and I both feel the true punishment that rapists deserve is to have their p#nises cut off! And thrown into prison to be forced upon!
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I haven't taken offense to anything that's been posted here. And I agree with every point made. I thought about this for quite awhile before posting.
(about 2 weeks) And you are correct, not many on this forum do know me, or what kind of person I am. There's probably only a couple who know me on site. No one should automatically believe anything that they hear. I guess I didn't think that people might assume I would make something like this up, but that would be because I don't know(at least I hope I don't)anyone who would.
 
evilmoody1 said:
I haven't taken offense to anything that's been posted here. And I agree with every point made. I thought about this for quite awhile before posting.
(about 2 weeks) And you are correct, not many on this forum do know me, or what kind of person I am. There's probably only a couple who know me on site. No one should automatically believe anything that they hear. I guess I didn't think that people might assume I would make something like this up, but that would be because I don't know(at least I hope I don't)anyone who would.
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Unless everyone edits the threads, it is too late now.......but perhaps you could have just posted something like...

"Hey anyone know this Road Player So and So?...Where can I find him...He has got some action!!!"

Nobody would have been any the wiser...including so and so that now knows he is on the lamb...

Just a suggestion.. :D :D
 
evilmoody1 said:
I haven't taken offense to anything that's been posted here. And I agree with every point made. I thought about this for quite awhile before posting.
(about 2 weeks) And you are correct, not many on this forum do know me, or what kind of person I am. There's probably only a couple who know me on site. No one should automatically believe anything that they hear. I guess I didn't think that people might assume I would make something like this up, but that would be because I don't know(at least I hope I don't)anyone who would.
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You did the right thing. Good job.

Post the name of the detective working the case and a phone number. You should also give them the info posted by Mike Templeton.
 
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Mike Templeton said:
Last I heard, Chavez was living in Augusta, Ga (North Augusta, SC) and playing tournaments and gambling in that area. He must have recently moved to Illinois.

I have know him for a while, but not well enough to know anything about his character. We just spoke to each other at tournaments. If I see him around the area, I'll let someone know.

Mike
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Mike, You just answered my question before I ask it. I was wondering if this was the same Chavez that was around Agusta, Ga... Later, Beatle.........
 
daddypool said:
Hi all, I hope this post doesn't offend anyone, especially evilmoody1.

I admire you for your courage, and your aim to help prevent other crimes to be commited by this person.

And to eveyone who suggested to you to name the person as well to the public. This may all be helpful to the police & hopefully for the better.

But 1st thing I asked myself while reading the 1st post was.."Is this about rape?"...2nd thing I asked was "Is this guy trying to damage someone(who he hates)'s name & reputation?"
Till more people in that area/city come up to support the allegation, this type of info may not be very real. (I'm sorry if this was done already, as I hope I didnt miss out on some posts relating to this)

As some mentioned before, once the bell is rung, there's no turning back, the damage is done.

Again, I am not trying to doubt anyone,but anything is possible on the internet, just to remind users for future similar posts. (Imagine your name came up one day, and it affects your marriage,career,and life itself!)

To end this post i just want to add that my wife and I both feel the true punishment that rapists deserve is to have their p#nises cut off! And thrown into prison to be forced upon!
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You're exactly right. Who knows what this guy is trying to start. It sure brings the drama queens out of the woodwork, though.
 
CATCH Chavez !!!

Hey Beatle & Mike T.,
Just wanted to say thanks for you guys posting this info about Chavez....I'll be on the look out for him. The pool grape vine can catch him.
Mike: I've not yet met you....I have two friends that met you, B. Wynn & E. Brooks....Ask M. Janis to point me out at "The Pool Room II".
Beatle: A couple of notes to let you know who I am....I once had to play you in a race to 1 (8-Ball Tourn. at "Mud Cats")....the last time I saw you was at CUES II....Pro Ring Game.... you bought
J. A. & I bought E.S.

"Have A Nice Day",
Lamar
 
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