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I was playing pool tonight and a friend came up to me and ask if I wanted to buy a couple off cue butts.One is a predator/samsara but limited edition(32 of 100)no shaft and the other was a pechauer butt,no shaft(both were broken).He said a freind wanted to sell them.He was asking $400 for both.I said I would give $225.He text his friend and got the o.k. and the deal was done.
I paid for the cues and after I had already paid for them I found out someone else had made an offer on them of $150.He said that he was told to get the most out of them he could by the owner.I later find out that the $150 offer was from a mutual friend of ours.I said to the guy I bought them from that I didn`t want any issues because of my friend bidding on them(the deal was already done when I found out about this)He said there was no deal made with the other bidder and he would call him and let him know someone made a better offer.
If I had known before the deal was done and money paid that my friend was making an offer on them I would have let my friend have them.
the seller left and few min later he called and said he told him.I said again I didn`t want any issues and he said again there was never a final deal made between him and my friend.
Later my friend( the other bidder) comes in and he is pissed at me saying what I did was wrong and I shouldn`t have done that and he expected more of me.Again I didn`t know anything about him and the offer he made until after the deal was completed and paid.He told me that once I found out he was the other bidder I should have got my money back and the deal went to him because they had made a deal aready and he left money at the bar for the cues and also the owner of the cues owed him money and he figured he could sell these and recoup some of his money.I was told there was never a deal made between him and the sellers(after the deal was already done and paid,Again I never knew about this until after everything was done and paid for)
I explained to him several times that I didn`t do anything underhanded toward him or out bid him to try and steal the deal from him.He now is pissed at me and the sellers of the cues.I have offered him the following options.
1 I would take my $225 back and he can have the cues.He said no he wanted them for $150
2 If he can get my $225 back I will let him have them for $150.he said that money is long gone and that wouldn`t happen.
3 I told him that since I didn`t want any hard feelings when I sold them I would split the profit 50/50 so he could recoup some of his money(even though I didn`t have to)He still is mad at me and is mad at the seller and owner
4 do nothing and just move on.
What do you guys think?
 
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I think he is not much of a friend.

You didnt know about it when you made the deal, thats the end of it. Besides, if you didnt make the deal there is no guarantee that your friend (term used loosely) would have got them. Someone else could have offered more than 150 before they ever got back to him.

Dont sweat it.

Woody
 
i agree with woody do nothing an move on....if someone is pissed at you b/c your not as cheap as them and they didn't secure the sale then thats not a friend thats just a jealous person
 
tomarrow is another day, you owe no one an explination for you biz.

one time I paid a guy(seller) more for a cue once that the other guy(first buyer) offered, i put the ball in the sellers court, i high rolled the deal and now its my break cue. had he declined my $$$ and took less that was his biz not mine. Since he wanted more $$$ and I offered it to him he chose to sell to me. I aint the bad guy, nobody is. Its called trade, business etc. I dont get emotional about that kind of thing, and you shouldnt either.
 
$225 or nothing , why should you take a loss, when you had no idea the 2 of you were competing for the same cues in the 1st place , he either pays
$225 for both or offer him one of the cues for $112.50, or you keep them, he gets nothing , and thats ,that......
 
make a friend

Cut the suckers in half and give him half of each butt. Or, you can give them to me and I'll pray for you. :grin:
 
I'd tell him the STFU and get over it.

If he really had a deal for $150 he would already have had the cues and the case would be closed.

I can't tell you how many times someone at a pool hall told me they were going to buy something and never came up with the cash. If I waited for every 'next Friday' or whatever I'd be holding cues for half of the state.
 
I was playing pool tonight and a friend came up to me and ask if I wanted to buy a couple off cue butts.

In my opinion, the blame is on this guy. He didn't deal properly with both of you. Your other friend should not feel anger against you, but against the broker who is - after your description - a friend of both of you, but clearly doesn't act like one.

As for the legal side, that's a matter of american law. When it comes to the sale of goods, the german law is quite different from that of the US, so I have no opinion on matters on your side of the atlantic :-)

Best regards,

Detlev
 
Has the other bidder acknowledged you had no idea of his involvement until after you made the transaction? Or is he so blinded by anger he's unable to do so?

IMO (assuming it went down as you say it did, but you're just one side of the story, no disrespect intended)...

if you can't get him to understand this after allowing for a cooling off period, then he's a freaking immature turdnugget and you should leave him behind and hold your head high. You made a lot of extra fair compromise offers to him.
 
Has the other bidder acknowledged you had no idea of his involvement until after you made the transaction? Or is he so blinded by anger he's unable to do so?

IMO (assuming it went down as you say it did, but you're just one side of the story, no disrespect intended)...

if you can't get him to understand this after allowing for a cooling off period, then he's a freaking immature turdnugget and you should leave him behind and hold your head high. You made a lot of extra fair compromise offers to him.

He acknowledged that the deal was done before I found out about it.He said once I found out he was the other bidder(my deal was already done and paid for at that time)I should have got my money back and the deal went to him.He said I should have called him and checked with him.So I said to him "I should have checked with you about what?"he said "to see if he was going to buy them"I told him I was told about him after my deal was already done and paid for and also was told 2 times by the seller( after my deal was done) there wasn`t a deal made with him.He said that once his name was brought up(about 10-15 minutes after my deal was done and paid for)I should have taken my money back and called him to see if he was going to buy them.
I would have never gone behind his back like that.I`m not financialy hurting and didn`t even want the cues but I figured I could make a few dollars on them.
I have 2 witnesses that were there the whole time and heard everything including seeing the text messages and hearing the phone call(speakephone,i was playing pool at the time).One of them told my angry friend exactly how it happened and 100% backed me up.The other witness had already left the poolroom when my friend came in angry so he wasn`t there to give his side but I have no doubt he will back me up 100% also.
I have nothing to hide.I know I did nothing wrong or underhanded,It just bothers me that I may loose a friend over this and I he can`t see that I did nothing wrong.
 
You're not going to lose a real friend over $75 bucks. This is stupid. You offered to make your "friend" happy when it wasn't your responsibility to do so (and shouldn't even have been an issue). Now he apparently won't be happy until it costs you $75 - and he knows it!
Be a real friend to this guy & tell him to grow up. He needs the reminder about now.
 
Your friend is being a little b!tch!! Plain and Simple!! The deal got a way from him because he low-balled even lower than you and lost out.

Keep the cues and make your money and he will come around eventually realizing what an ass he has been.

Gary
 
Cue Deals

I've seen this one before.

Your offer to split any profits was more than generous.
I doubt the seller was going to accept the extreme lowball offer anyway.

Cue deals seem to bring out a lot of emotion and jealousy sometimes.
On the other hand your friend sounds like kind of a cheapskate.
Buy him a beer or tell him to grow up.
 
I agree with all the above except the cutting the butts in half :) It's possible your "friend" was trying to get them on the cheap since he was into the owner for some money. I say you did all you could honorably.
 
It just bothers me that I may loose a friend over this and I he can`t see that I did nothing wrong.

I agree with Chris, your not losing a friend. Either he figures out you did nothing wrong or he wasnt a friend in the first place.

If he really holds a grudge over this, you should be happy you found out what kind of guy he is now instead of later :eek:
 
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