LOL!! Hey what about golf too??? LOL!!
Poll: What game is the the best test of skill?
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LOL!! Hey what about golf too??? LOL!!
Straight Pool is the Champ
The game of choice of all the Old Greats is Straight Pool. It is the Best game in the Sport of Pool. The other games are good in there own way but you can see the straight pool in all those games. Many of these young guns want to play 9-ball b/c they break and 2 balls go in and they are only dealing with 7 balls on the table. Each player makes one or two either by shooting a ball in or by slop and they are dealing with 4 to 5 balls on the table most of the time and they think they are great players of the game. They do not even want to try 14-1 b/c it is too hard, maybe they have to use too much grey matter and they need it to gamble.
The game of choice of all the Old Greats is Straight Pool. It is the Best game in the Sport of Pool. The other games are good in there own way but you can see the straight pool in all those games. Many of these young guns want to play 9-ball b/c they break and 2 balls go in and they are only dealing with 7 balls on the table. Each player makes one or two either by shooting a ball in or by slop and they are dealing with 4 to 5 balls on the table most of the time and they think they are great players of the game. They do not even want to try 14-1 b/c it is too hard, maybe they have to use too much grey matter and they need it to gamble.
Three Way
IMO one hole,14.1, and 15 ball rotation would all be required events for an overall rating as all these games make the participant apply basic and refined skill sets plus the mental aspect along with fundamental stratagies. Banks are great but brutal.
IMO one hole,14.1, and 15 ball rotation would all be required events for an overall rating as all these games make the participant apply basic and refined skill sets plus the mental aspect along with fundamental stratagies. Banks are great but brutal.
The one thing I don't see is why some people are saying straights is the toughest...to me its a game of repetition; breakout, pick, pick, breakout. I understand there's a ton to be learned of how to properly break balls out and how to read the stack, not to mention the amount of concentration it takes to make big runs...
However...every time I've played it I notice you dont need to use english to the degree you do in rotation, nor do you need to be able to make as many 2-3 rail position shots as you do in rotation. Also, in straights the balls generally go to the obvious pockets, where in rotation you often have to play the balls to unobvious holes just due to the lay of the table, or to be able to make position for the next ball. Not to mention that straights doesn't really showcase banks and kicks as much as rotation as someone already mentioned.
English, making 2-3 rail position, kicking, banking...all those are important facets that I don't believe straights really emphasizes as much as rotation. Just my opinion though
However...every time I've played it I notice you dont need to use english to the degree you do in rotation, nor do you need to be able to make as many 2-3 rail position shots as you do in rotation. Also, in straights the balls generally go to the obvious pockets, where in rotation you often have to play the balls to unobvious holes just due to the lay of the table, or to be able to make position for the next ball. Not to mention that straights doesn't really showcase banks and kicks as much as rotation as someone already mentioned.
English, making 2-3 rail position, kicking, banking...all those are important facets that I don't believe straights really emphasizes as much as rotation. Just my opinion though
macneilb, i agree to some extent, but tight positioning and cue control is more important than in a rotation game, where most of the points are at the end of the rack and you don't need to be pinpoint precise. however, i still rank rotation above 14.1 and 1 pocket above both.
okinawarob
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Test of Skill
You can control three things in pool and in every other game you can get away with control of only two during most of your shots. In 3 cushion you have to control all three every shot, this is why many "Pool Players" can not get behind this game more than 30 min before they are embarrased. Sure you can run racks and pack some 9 ball strings daily but get you on a table minus the holes and you might play like a chump. It is not your fault most rooms dont have the tables, but if they do and you spend the time to know a little about this game all other game skills jump upward fast. Your aim increases, your speed is judged and spin become focused.
I had a table in my room for about a year and it was the least used table in the hall. I was happy I had a table to play on when the bangers came and took up all the tables on the weekends. $Money$ rules in business so she had to go and the new table was a cash cow compared to her numbers, there are no rooms witha 3C table on Okinawa I know of now but once I go to mainland I can get a fix, even if it is only a quickie!
You can control three things in pool and in every other game you can get away with control of only two during most of your shots. In 3 cushion you have to control all three every shot, this is why many "Pool Players" can not get behind this game more than 30 min before they are embarrased. Sure you can run racks and pack some 9 ball strings daily but get you on a table minus the holes and you might play like a chump. It is not your fault most rooms dont have the tables, but if they do and you spend the time to know a little about this game all other game skills jump upward fast. Your aim increases, your speed is judged and spin become focused.
I had a table in my room for about a year and it was the least used table in the hall. I was happy I had a table to play on when the bangers came and took up all the tables on the weekends. $Money$ rules in business so she had to go and the new table was a cash cow compared to her numbers, there are no rooms witha 3C table on Okinawa I know of now but once I go to mainland I can get a fix, even if it is only a quickie!
i agree, but to get to the balls at the end of the rack is where its tricky, when everything is still on the table and you have to navigate around it - shooting weird shots and making shape off them. not to mention if something is tied up in rotation, you not only have to know how to break it out, but more importantly when to break it out because you only have one ball to shoot at next, unlike straights where you can break it out and pick your next ball depending on how they come out.
i can agree that 1pocket might be the toughest though since there's so much to it, and it emcompasses everything well.
Voodoo Daddy
One Pocket 101
One Pocket...hands down for me
Test of skill? No doubt: 14.1
Test of knowledge? Well that's a different kettle of fish: 1pocket.
Lou Figueroa
My first thought is whichever game is most difficult to master
Wouldn't the question of which billiard game would be most difficult to master bring one closer to that answer? If that doesn't do it for you, I would then suggest that you work on improving your question to your own satisfaction, for in so doing, you will be that much closer to your answer.
For continual improvement,
Eddie Robin[/COLOR]
Wouldn't the question of which billiard game would be most difficult to master bring one closer to that answer? If that doesn't do it for you, I would then suggest that you work on improving your question to your own satisfaction, for in so doing, you will be that much closer to your answer.
For continual improvement,
Eddie Robin[/COLOR]
Pushout or rollout 9-ball . No question ! You actually have to make shots to win . A player can play to his strengths and his opponents weaknesses . The player who shoots the best will win 95% of the time !!!
Okay , the hardest game to master .. 3-cushion. The game of straight pool is , i think, a great practice game or learning game . After becoming proficient it becomes to easy for the good player . One-pocket is basically a hustlers game . What other game or sport do you not try to score or make an offensive move so often ? As for 9-ball or 10-ball , the rules of nowaday are made for the lesser player to be able to compete -- safety play kills the game !!!
bank pool by far
your banking the ball , and it has to go clean.
your banking the ball , and it has to go clean.
StraightMan, Please refer to my post on one pocket .org. Its in PJ's thread.."Vote Early, Vote Often".
(you are right on, I will reserve MY grey matter for ANYTHNG but 14.1)
Dick
Lol
I respect other players opinions on all subjects. One-Pocket is a tuff game and it does take skill & "grey matter". I do not play it b/c maybe I just do not understand it. I see you give lessons in one pocket. Let me know when you are in Dallas and I would like to take a lesson. Maybe, you can prove to me why you think one pocket is better then 14-1 but I am "Old School" when it comes to Straight Pool.
Always enjoy playing other players that can help me learn b/c one is never too old to learn.
Mike G.
StraightMan, Please refer to my post on one pocket .org. Its in PJ's thread.."Vote Early, Vote Often".
(you are right on, I will reserve MY grey matter for ANYTHNG but 14.1)
Dick
I respect other players opinions on all subjects. One-Pocket is a tuff game and it does take skill & "grey matter". I do not play it b/c maybe I just do not understand it. I see you give lessons in one pocket. Let me know when you are in Dallas and I would like to take a lesson. Maybe, you can prove to me why you think one pocket is better then 14-1 but I am "Old School" when it comes to Straight Pool.
Always enjoy playing other players that can help me learn b/c one is never too old to learn.
Mike G.