Pool Ball Collecting.

Picked up a poker set. I still want to get the suited version poker set, but I do love this set because it is true to the original clay poker ball design, but is also playable. ClassicBilliards makes a very nice 16 ball rack for this set in case anybody is looking for that. Link below.

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ClassicBilliards 16 Ball Poker Rack
 
aramith continental pool balls from the late 70's early 80's. There phenolic but also silkscreened numbers and stripes.
I have a set of those balls. Eventually, the numbers rubbed off, but not the stripes or solid color. Good thing I know ball colors.
 
I was looking for the 29 Colour Ball set by Eagle Pool Balls, and found some to buy. But when asking the seller, they said that these are 2“ balls. Were these available in 2 sizes? I found a Reddit post, where someone claims to have a few sets in 2 1/4“ to sell. The old website from Eagle does not mention any sizes at all.

I would have prefered them to be bigger 2 1/4“, because then i could use the diamond rack as well for my poker pool balls. Are they still available anywhere in that size?
 
Hello, Mulambo.

I stand to be corrected but believe the Eagle 29-ball set were indeed 2 and 1/4 inches, dear chap.

A friend of mine from Michigan did have a few sets for sale last year. I’ll send him a message on your behalf, sir, to enquire if any are still available.
 
I found a few pictures of the boxes so far, and could not find any size written on them. So i could not verify if the ones in here are 2“ or not. But all the boxes which can be bought by now seem to be 2“ indeed. I asked one seller about it.

That’s strange. And i checked the old website via Wayback Machine, and they never mentioned there that the set is available in 2 different sizes.
 
I found a few pictures of the boxes so far, and could not find any size written on them. So i could not verify if the ones in here are 2“ or not. But all the boxes which can be bought by now seem to be 2“ indeed. I asked one seller about it.

That’s strange. And i checked the old website via Wayback Machine, and they never mentioned there that the set is available in 2 different sizes.
I have 3 sets and they are ALL 2.25". 2 of my sets are complete, and 1 is a mix that enables me to have a full 2 color 8 ball set of every color choice. I have never really thought of selling them, and would only sell the whole group, but if you are interested in that purchase, PM me. The sets are in the original boxes, and include the triangles. Pics available of course.
 
Thanks for that kind offer, but no thanks.

The 2“ set was rather cheap, about 50,-. So it got my attention and i thought about buying it (without knowing it is not a 2 1/4“ set). I am currently in the process of buying used Snooker sets to get some coloured balls. I can get them cheaper, for about 20-25,- used, and they seem to be the only source to get simple (not numbered) balls in 2 1/4“ size. I found no store who sells these as single replacements so far. This leaves me with a lot of reds, but well, it is what it is 😊
 
Greetings! Hoping for some conformation or clarification from the experts.
A couple of new acquisitions. The cue ball was a separate purchase. Raschigs?

Thank you
 

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Hello, Mr L.

Thank you for sharing more interesting images, sir.

With regards the possible Raschig set… it is so tough to judge from a photograph, dear chap, and my first impressions have been proven wrong before in similar circumstances. There are certainly many aspects that do look like Raschig whilst a few other little points give me pause… the straight uprights on the 5s, slightly thicker lines in places etc.

My honest answer would be that I don’t know, sir, but measuring the balls, number disc widths and weighing everything would help identification for sure.

Best wishes.
 
Hello, Mr L.

Thank you for sharing more interesting images, sir.

With regards the possible Raschig set… it is so tough to judge from a photograph, dear chap, and my first impressions have been proven wrong before in similar circumstances. There are certainly many aspects that do look like Raschig whilst a few other little points give me pause… the straight uprights on the 5s, slightly thicker lines in places etc.

My honest answer would be that I don’t know, sir, but measuring the balls, number disc widths and weighing everything would help identification for sure.

Best wishes.
Greetings! Thank you for the reply. Unfortunately, I believe now, that they are not Raschigs. While I have not measured sticks or diameter, the weights of the balls do wander a bit. Moving forward!
 
Your catalog cut came from either the 1951 or the 1952 Brunswick Mail Order Catalog. They were the same. The page preceding yours shows the well known Ivorylene darted ball.

The new phenolic resin non-darted Centennial ball was introduced in the 1951 Brunswick Mail Order Catalog. It was shown on the page following the darted Ivorylene ball, the Brunswick flagship for many years. That catalog alignment was repeated again in 1952. Brunswick, wisely, brought the phenolic resin concept forward slowly. The darted phenolic resin Centennial ball was introduced in the 1953 catalog, but it still followed the darted Ivorylene ball, and that alignment was repeated again in 1954. Finally, in 1955, the more recognizable darted phenolic resin Centennial ball received its own singular graphic billing, with the Ivorylene ball only mentioned in a paragraph in the slot below.

I have never held the earliest version of the non-darted Centennial ball in my hands, so I can't describe the texture or the configuration of the number font on each ball. Even though phenolic ball manufacturing had been around since before World War II, it was still in its infancy as far as being an established process is concerned. Endolithic had used throw-away glass molds, but ABB Co. was developing re-usable molds that helped streamline the injection molding process. Much of the true injection molding processing was, however, a direct spin-off from the very important use of Bakelite and its derivatives in the World War II war effort. Balls were fairly easy to make, so the ramp-up was fairly quick.

OK, back to the Centennial. The early darted Centennial balls used a finer, thinner font on the numbers and the circle/darts that defined the design. In 1958, the Brunswick Centennial finally received complete recognition with an action, full color blast on the last page of the catalog. I can't swear to it, but I think the 1958 version is the beginning of the reign of glory that lasted until 1985.
Boxcar, could you pm me about Centennial balls?
 
Hello, everyone.

Just took a very quick snap of something that deserves a far better backdrop and lighting, but thought you might appreciate it anyway.

Behold the three known sizes of Aramith’s beautiful Striped Pokers… 2 inches, 2 1/8th inches and 2 1/4 inches. At the time of writing, I’m reasonably confident a similar image cannot be found anywhere else online… yet.

Best wishes.

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I have a set you have not seen, 2-1/16" - how do I know? I have the original boxed labeled with the size! And it is not some stamp, it is part of the label design and they were made by Aramith for National Billiards. So apparently there were four sizes.
 
I am super excited to now be the curator of this Holy Grail set of Arcos prototypes, new in the box! The next owner will be designated in my will! I've been hoping for this set to come my way for years!
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Hearty congratulations, Mr Piper.

I am delighted that you have acquired a truly special set for your collection, dear chap. Let us hope it signals the beginning of a treasure trove of rare finds.

🙏
 
I belong to a different club. It’s a brand of pool balls I fell in love with 63 years ago and my love affair still continues.
 

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