Pool Ball Collecting.

Hello again, Mr R. :)

Just for a laugh, sir, I would be tempted to buy a set of those untapped bowling balls that look like pool balls and take them along to your next game.
 
Attention all RASCHIG owners and collectors.

Do we have any amateur sleuths among us on the AZB boards, a budding Hercule Poirot or Ellery Queen, perchance? This week's mystery, brought to you in stereo from the great state of Texas, is The Case Of The Ringed Cueballs. Da da da!

The unusual examples of K2Kraze's post below are strangely hypnotic when presented in concert, all those concentric circles mesmerising a viewer's eye as if in some billiardesque homage to Marcel Duchamp. But what exactly, one might ask, are these quirky pool balls? From where and when did they originate? Who made them? And why have they caused such debate of late within the collecting fraternity?

Permit me if you will, dear reader, to recount everything I know. Three full sets of these curios were recently obtained from Lübbecke, a town in northeast Rhine-Westphalia, Germany. They were sold to us as the veritable Holy Grail of any keen pool ball enthusiast... long lost prototype designs from the most desirable and heralded of manufacturers, the mighty Raschig.

Reserving one full set each for our respective collections, Mr K and I are now offering the remaining sixteen balls individually to any fellow connoisseurs on this great forum (see thread in the FOR SALE section).

Here is the rub though, ladies and gentlemen. Despite exhaustive research we have been unable to confirm the origin of these balls to our total satisfaction. They are PROBABLY genuine Raschigs, but I'm not yet prepared to stake my good reputation on such a bold claim. The positive news is that they arrived in the iconic blue box, their lustrous patina is commensurate of a 1970's vintage, and they're undoubtedly of German heritage... that much at least I can guarantee with complete confidence.

It is feasible in my view that they were experiment pieces at the R & D stage of early production from this renowned company. An evaluation of possible stripe placement, number spot design or analysis of embossing processes perhaps? I can offer firm assurances that this configuration was never marketed, nor have the cueballs ever been struck in anger, they are in a pristine, unused condition.

I must, however, comment on the depth of groove which is a noticeable feature of almost every black circle... very few are perfectly flush with the ball's surface and some could be described as deep. It is rather reminiscent to me of those beautiful old sets where the number engravings have sunk or deteriorated somewhat, certainly an issue if one intended to play with them.

With unimpeachable provenance of authenticity these balls would surely be worth a great deal to existing Raschig owners or any budding collector. In this instance, however, the only honourable course of action is to advertise them as being of uncertain origin, pitch the price accordingly low and encourage potential buyers to don a deerstalker, fill a pipe or two and perhaps engage in a little detective work of their own.

And with that, my friends, I'll hand over to my old buddy, K2Kraze, for all the important stuff.

Best wishes,
RC.
 
What a great introduction to this remarkable acquisition we were able to acquire in concert earlier this year, RC - with some of the most adventurous part of the tale taking place before they were in shipment

I recall an untold number of emails between the two of us and the nearly secretive owner in Germany - having to translate each and every email and try our best at deciphering the chosen words. Then came the financial negotiations only to be trumped by the fact that after nearly a month of back and forth, I get another email letting us know that it’s this fellows sister that actually has possession of the darlings from her connections and history with Raschig directly! She had no way to accept the funds from America he says and if I’d be so kind to forward the monies to him before she would get the parcels to post. And then it was nearly smooth sailing

Without further adieu, may I present what Rubik’s Cube and myself laid eyes on when they arrived. Untouched by anyone in nearly 40 years....


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And a unique perspective showing all facets of the multi-ringed mysterious Raschigs...

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One very interesting tidbit of information we were able to glean from the tight-lipped purveyors of these mysterious Raschig ringed marvels is that we know of only 8 total boxes that were ever made - and only 4 that we’ve been able to verify exist.

Happy 4th everyone!

~ K.


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Hello, poolhustler -

Since I’m away from my collection and the numerous Raschig examples I have to take side by side pics for you and post to the thread, perhaps Rubik’s Cube can chime in and see what examples he can provide until I get back to the poolroom on Tuesday.

~ K.


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Good afternoon, Pool Hustler.

I have three Raschig cueballs in my collection whose authenticity and historical provenance are beyond doubt, sir. Two examples from their numberless Turniersatz R9s plus another one from a Dekorit spots and stripes set. I have all three whites in front of me as I type, sitting alongside my recently acquired box of those mysterious prototype balls. In comparison, here are my findings:

The two R9 cueballs are slightly darker in colour than their ringed counterparts to my eye, just a tiny shade more yellow would be a fair appraisal. The Dekorit R16 cueball, however, I would describe as being identical in every regard except the engraved black circles... the lighter colour, feel, depth of lustre, sheen etc are all the same, no discernible difference whatsoever for me.

Unfortunately, dear fellow, I possess neither Mr K's equipment nor talent to provide photographs of a quality that would be of any real worth to you in comparing these parallels. I can only offer my thoughts expressed in the post above... everything about where and how we discovered these balls suggest that they are genuine Raschigs, but in the absence of any documented evidence from the company itself (as yet) it is not possible to give an absolute guarantee.

Best wishes, sir, and sincere thanks for your interest.

RC
 
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I reallly enjoy your posts rubik, thought it funny the non moderators trying to mod your posts about the Raschig balls, you have a good attitude and cool head. I would have told them suck my...
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I thought the post appropriate, and also a nice heads up for those interested.

People often post in cue and case gallery, just trying drum up attention before they go to the for sale section.
 
Good afternoon, eihi. :)

Thank you for those most generous comments, sir, it is always gratifying to hear that folks like the collecting thread. Half the fun is sharing our pictures, stories of the chase etc and any feedback is sincerely appreciated.

I don't mind the criticisms, everyone is welcome and it's all part and parcel of being on a public forum.

Best wishes,
RC.
 
Raschig striped cue balls

I also purchased a set of these, a few months ago, from the same German source (he told me he had more). So that accounts for the 4 known boxes.

He said that these were training balls, but I agree with Kerry and Rubik's that these appear to be some kind of production prototype. The grooves are rather deep, something I would not expect from a Rashig product meant for play. To be honest, I was not 100% sure these were Rashigs when I bought them.
 
Hello, Me Kapela -

A rather interesting piece of information about your purchase of box 4 just so happened to ultimately come from the exact same source - but yours was via a person Rubik’s and I know to be only a buyer and then reseller of his wares in every sense of the word - and he purchased his set from the same source as we did out of Germany.

Layer by layer we hope to uncover the details of these mysterious ringed (99.7% surety) Raschigs



~ K.


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Burt pool balls -- double stripe

This is a very nice set of Burt double stripe balls. The 12 and 14 could maybe be a little darker, but really nice colors. This is going by now on Ebay.

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Speaking of Ebay, I just noticed this seller (thepoolcueshop) who offers replacement balls by number. Quite a variety of each number....

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Hello, Bob -

Really appreciate posting up new offerings you stumble across for the PBC thread as a whole. There are some interesting older sets available that I’ve been keeping eyes on - and as always, it’s overall set quality and condition that is hardest to come by for the (fitting) higher prices these rarities command. In the case of the antique clay Burt’s, asking prices range from the $3000 mark for fair condition up through $4k for a nice set. To start.


As for the tray of 7’s, your timing is quite serendipitous - because I’ve been working on a photo shoot of 16 different ball trays comprising identical layouts from 22 interesting ball sets so folks can see the variations of each numbered ball side-by-side....like this example I did a while back of the 8’s:

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I’ll get the individual numbered compilations up later this month I think.

Thanks again for the great finds, Bob!

~K.


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Hello, everyone -

I thought appropriate to share a few pics taken of the previously mentioned and posted ringed Raschig balls before this particular offering was sent off to the numerous new owners over the days ahead.

A caboodle of balls all lined up ready to face the questioning and conversations surely to follow when they land on new shelves...

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~ K.


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Nice lineup you got there! I like the stands aswell, are those something you've had made for display purposes or is there a place where you can buy those off the shelf?
 
Hello, Kimmo -

The round, dimpled acrylic ball stands I have and shown here were a challenge to find, but are available if one looks hard enough. These are also beveled as you can see and add a nice touch without taking away from the ball. I am also looking at a few new display blocks for future projects.

~ K.
 
In that last photograph one could almost imagine the balls being a few hundred feet tall, some kind of alien citadel in a science fiction movie.

Yeah, I know, I've got an over active imagination! :)
 
142 years is a long time to do anything.

So - who’s heard of Budweiser?

Perhaps you’ve heard some of their famous tag lines - and I’ll wager a ball set or two that looking through a few of them, that fond memories will lead to a near-instantaneous smile as you reflect back - or ahead to a league match this weekend

King of beers

Nothing beats a Bud

Where there’s life, there’s Bud

It’s worth it - it’s Budweiser

For all you do, this Bud’s for you

Budweiser. True.

When you say Budweiser...you’ve said it all


With that short intro, here is a fitting set of balls to pull out for that next get-together of friends and a pool match. Ice cold Budweiser in the tub. A great playlist streaming. A set of poker chips out to exchange for their cash so they don’t realize how much they’ll really lose playing you

From my Brewery section of balls...

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This officially licensed set plays remarkably well with zero skids and minimal scuff marks after 10 racks, so don’t be afraid to snaffle up a set of your favorite brewery balls to show the guys next Pool Night.

This Bud’s for you

Drink responsibly, my friends

~ K.
 
Good morning, Mr K. :)

Great set of Budweisers you have there, my friend, thank you for sharing such excellent photographs and interesting write ups as always.

Tell me, sir, do you have the 'all red' set? I saw some on eBay quite recently and they're rather attractive to my eye.

Best wishes,
RC.
 
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