Pool Branding: Should Products Be Free?

JAM

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The below-referenced is a post written by Fast Lenny:

I love what TAR is doing,the production is really good and the show is filled with great players and characters which is fun to watch.I do believe the business model they have is not going to work sadly.I think instead of PPV,the pool should be free,sponsors should pay the money.Imagine if all these PPV matches were free,i think as time went on we would see 1000s watching these streams,thats great for sponsors.More hits and viewers equals more sponsorship dollars for sure,i do see they have sponsors listed but dont know what they really contribute.I think that its the best way to do a live stream is sponsorship,the ppv thing wont work on a large scale,it seems people either dont have the means or money and also the technical problems that come with doing a live show you will have complaints about the stream being PPV and not being perfect.I hope this happens and TAR gets some good solid financial backing from sponsors to take this to the next level and everyone wins,the fans, the sponsors and TAR!

I thought about this post last night several times and came away with how effective branding is. Brand names had to start somewhere, though.

In pool, I can remember when Predator gave just about every single pro pool player, who was active on the tournament trail, a Predator break cue. Some pro players even got a beautiful case with the Predator logo on it, as well as some shirts with the logo on it as well. I remember being at one tournament and thinking, man, all the players are shooting with Predator. It must be a really good product for these players to be using it. ;)

I remember seeing Ryan McCreesh with a brand-new Predator break cue, and I wanted my horse to have one, too! LOL!

Well, truth be told, the players got it for free. In exchange, the Predator was able to get their brand name out there in the pool public. The product is very popular today and is used by many players. In this instance, Predator did have to invest a lot of monies to give away their product for free, but look at the return. Today, they are one of the leading pool manufacturers, and BTW, bravo to Predator for giving back to the professional pool community by hosting this 10-ball tournament, as well as other events. :cool:

AzBilliards is the leading website in pool, bar none. Though pool seems to be gaining in popularity overseas, with many events now being held there, the fact of the matter is AzBilliards still ranks number one on the net for pool. Best of all, it's free, too. :)

Could AzBilliards website be a vehicle for pool manufacturers and industry members to utilize for their products by giving away some items free? Maybe contests for a brand-new pool table, like HGTV is doing right now, giving away a green house in Hilton Head, South Carolina. [I entered the contest every day, and I want to win]. Along the way, reading about this green house, I learned about Shaw carpet, Sears washer and dryers, paperstone countertops, and the GMC Hybrid vehicle, as an example. The branding strategy in this contest worked for me. Next carpet I get will be a Shaw carpet, and when I remodel my kitchen, I will definitely be looking at paperstone countertops.

There is some merit to what Fast Lenny has written, and as such, I thought it deserved its own thread. I am not initiating this thread about TAR per se, but rather I wanted to develop a colloquy about branding and how beneficial it can be. If Predator got to be high in the ranks for giving away their product for FREEE, then maybe, just maybe, this can be effective.

Again, I am not trying to say TAR should give their product away for free. I want to explore the concept of how effective this strategy can be in advancing a company's profit margin.

I would be interested to read the thoughts of others. What say you?

JAM
 
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AZB as vehicle

Jennie,

Don't know where this thread may head off to, but AZB will be happy to be the vehicle for manufacturers to give away their products through contests or whatever. We have longed believed that content on the net should be free and supported by advertisers.

The web is a great advertising machine. The audiences are targeted and huge and the ads cost a lot less than other media. All we need in pool is fans who are loyal to the advertisers and let companies know that they support the companies that support pool.
 
It seems to working well for Viking who has been giving away a Viking cue every month in Inside Pool Mag's caption contest.
 
JB Cases said:
It seems to working well for Viking who has been giving away a Viking cue every month in Inside Pool Mag's caption contest.

Funny you should mention that! :D

In fact, Viking Tour, as evidenced on this forum time and time again, is coming up with many innovative ideas for pool. In the end, their product, the Viking name, gets more and more brand recognition in the process.

The six $20,000-added tournaments offer is another way that Viking keeps on moving upwards.

It is interesting what some industry members deem as important. I have always thought branding was imperative for a company to succeed in any industry. Yet, I have seen some pool industry members do some oddball moves, like when Falcon removed their funding of an extremely successful tour in my area after only a short one year. It was tragic for the tour, a tour that was and still is extremely popular today. I will never forget it. It could have been due to downsizing, so I heard, but that was a bad move on Falcon's part. This tour brought the Falcon name a lot of publicity in all the pool print media, much like Viking is doing today.

Predator giving away free break cues, though, seems to be the largest grand-scale offering I have ever heard of in pool.

So, John, when will we be getting a free Instroke case? :D ;) :p :)

JAM
 
thanks for the giveaways. please send me a pm for my address. i'll be waiting anxiously for my predator cue and instroke case.
 
JB Cases said:
It seems to working well for Viking who has been giving away a Viking cue every month in Inside Pool Mag's caption contest.
Funny you should bring this up... I've been noticing that most of the monthly winners are from Northern Illinois, coincidence- maybe, maybe not!


I too believe that brand names with proper marketing could become well known quickly. I have a few friends (who will remain nameless) that laugh a little every time I put a flyer, advertisement, trophy, plaque, banner or apparel into the public... why the laugh, because everything, I mean EVERYTHING I put out pool related has www.zimsrack.com or Zim's Rack on it somewhere. It pays off, I've gotten thousands of hits on my website from different types of billiard customers. I run a league, a tour, sell merchandise, build/repair cues, give lessons, help others promote the sport also.

It's just ironic that this subject was brought up! Good post!

Zim
 
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While giving away free product to strategically place your name and product in the public eye works for a manufacturing entity or marketing company, I don't think it would work well for TAR. It's kind of like putting the cart before the horse. TAR's product right now is their live stream and the resultant DVDs. They need to prove that their product is good and will attract customers that may be interested in pool related products in order to get sponsorship. Sponsors in general aren't going to put money out on speculation. They much prefer a proven commodity. It may seem like a contradiction, but the model where a startup company convices the top echelon of a given activity to use their product so that the general public can become familiar with it through their idols/heroes has been proven many times over, just like the model where a sponsor throws out a bunch of money on the speculation that a given event/tour/series is going to generate mucho interest has been proven time and time again to be a gamble.
 
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