Pool goals?

pool goals....

Id still love to fullfil my goal listed in my name....go pro in 07...if not 07 then 08 or 09 or however long it would take.....had a great time last year at the DCC, and would love to get to do it for a living.....just gotta find a way to get back into it.....
 
I have a lot of goals; but most seem achieveable.

Goal #1 - Run 50 balls.

Goal #2 - Run 100 balls.

Goal #3 - Win straight pool league (a little more difficult now that there are 3 pro's in the league - but it IS handicapped).

Goal #4 - REACH SHORTSTOP STATUS. I have heard several instructors say that 1 1/2 to 2 hours a day of practice is enough to reach pro level play; IF the practice is of the appropriate kind and appropriate intensity. Most forum members do not appear to believe this; I would like to see if it is true.

Goal #5 - Stomp breakup into a useless pile of refuse (oh, wait, he's pretty much already there....I'll settle for winning the large bag of sand).

Goal #6 - Have more of the serious AZB students of the game visit Betmore's Basement - there have been some great visits so far - I look forward to more.
 
Williebetmore said:
Goal #3 - Win straight pool league (a little more difficult now that there are 3 pro's in the league - but it IS handicapped).

As you know, our goals and work ethic are quite similar. Unless I get hit by a bus this week, I will win the fall session of our straight pool league. I just need 43 balls to have it locked up. I will post more about my thrilling victory or spectacular crash after my final match Wednesday night.
 
#1) Continue To improve my Game, My knowledge and execution.

#2) To run 100 in Straight pool

#3) To play a competetive 1 pocket game against a certain pro.
 
> My original long-term goal is impossible now. It was to eventually gain Touring Pro status on the PBT,which basically only meant that I would have been cashing consistently on the tour,and beating my share of top-10 ranked players. Now,I'll have to settle for eventually beating the 10-ball ghost on crappy equipment. Tommy D.
 
Goals are very important when learning any pursuit. However unrealistic goals can be very frusterating. For example when you begin playing pool you do not know your actual potential, so setting a goal to become a pro player may be entirely out of your reach. Setting time limits on your goals again is also a quick way to frusterate yourself, regardless if they are realistic time limits or not.

You can have a general determination to be the best that you can be, and see where that takes you. Along with this it is best set goals like run a rack of 9 ball, run a rack of 8 ball or run 20 points in 14.1. These are realistic for anybody to achieve, though it might take longer than for some than others. Once you achieve your goals, make new ones.

As for myself, I've already achieved some impressive high runs. I'm more interested in consistency now than increasing those high runs. For example I would like to consistantly run 40-50 points in snooker, or 40-50 points in 14.1. I am also working on my break to add more power and control, so that I can give myself more opportunities at break and outs.

Identify what you need to do reach your goal, and work on the short comings that keep you from success. I have to work on tightening up my position play. Often times I rely on shotmaking which works when I'm playing well, but when my eye is off my game goes down hill.
 
You all speak in terms of racks run. How long does the average player need to play before running one or more racks in straight pool? I have been playing for months & choke up every time I get to the 11-13 ball range.
 
berlowmj said:
You all speak in terms of racks run. How long does the average player need to play before running one or more racks in straight pool? I have been playing for months & choke up every time I get to the 11-13 ball range.

How long is months? A lot of people have the almighty break and run so high up on a pedestal that everytime they get anywhere close to it they tense up. Ya just gotta play the balls, dude. It sounds like it's a mental thing, however it is probably also a positional play thing as well.

Just keep practicing.
 
berlowmj said:
You all speak in terms of racks run. How long does the average player need to play before running one or more racks in straight pool? I have been playing for months & choke up every time I get to the 11-13 ball range.

Hmm, can you run a rack of 8 Ball? I find it easier to get into the 2nd rack of straight pool then it is for me to run a rack of 8-ball. If you can run racks in 8-ball, you should be able to run racks in straight pool. Stick with it, it will come for you. You probably just need to improve your overall game which takes time. If you love the game, you will do what you need to do to get there.
 
For ages my goal has been to run 100 in 14.1. In my 40 years of playing, I've had two 10 year periods where I didn't pick up a cue. The first separation came when life interferred--running a business, wife, and other goals left little time. Then golf took over. Yikes! You think pool is addictive? Whew!

But now I've been back to playing regularly for about 5 years. A year ago I decided that to achieve the consistency I wanted, I would have to fix a mechanical flaw that has plagued me ever since I began playing. I have done it without benefit of a coach, which was probably a mistake. I went backwards a lot before I finally overcame the ensuing loss of confidence. It's been an education, though. I learned that confidence, even with faulty technique, wins more than perfect technique shaded with doubt.

Now, finally, after a million drills and hours before a mirror, I've overcome 40 years of my plane misalignment. It finally feels comfortable, and I can confidently shoot the shots I've avoided for years.

So this year, I think I'm on my way to running that elusive 100!
 
tedkaufman said:
For ages my goal has been to run 100 in 14.1. In my 40 years of playing, I've had two 10 year periods where I didn't pick up a cue. The first separation came when life interferred--running a business, wife, and other goals left little time. Then golf took over. Yikes! You think pool is addictive? Whew!

But now I've been back to playing regularly for about 5 years. A year ago I decided that to achieve the consistency I wanted, I would have to fix a mechanical flaw that has plagued me ever since I began playing. I have done it without benefit of a coach, which was probably a mistake. I went backwards a lot before I finally overcame the ensuing loss of confidence. It's been an education, though. I learned that confidence, even with faulty technique, wins more than perfect technique shaded with doubt.

Now, finally, after a million drills and hours before a mirror, I've overcome 40 years of my plane misalignment. It finally feels comfortable, and I can confidently shoot the shots I've avoided for years.

So this year, I think I'm on my way to running that elusive 100!

Ted, that is interesting. Could you elaborate on the hows and whys of your changing your physical flaws, as it pertains to goals? Did you write down your flaws and then carefully redesign your stroke or did you just happen to find out what you were doing wrong, or what? You decided not to use an instructor, but do it yourself...was that planned or did you just happen to go that way? etc.

I think this might help me (us) to find the path toward fixing physical abnormalities in my (our) shots.

Jeff Livingston
 
mthornto said:
I think the vast majority of posters do not aspire to play professionally. I know I certainly do not. Lately, I have been thinking about what I do want to do with the game. If the goal is not to play professionally, then what do I want from the game?

A lot of talk here about achieving an X-pack at 8-ball and 9-ball, or running Y at 14.1. That's fine, but what about all the great people and great times we have while playing in our Leagues, sharing a drink with our friends and meeting new people. I came to the USA not knowing a single person and having not having picked up a cue since I was about 10. Pool has given me a life outside of work. I have been blessed to meet great friends and share great times both on and off the table. That is what pool has given me more than my 50 ball runs, and what I still look forward to every Wed and Thu night at League.
 
mthornto said:
...With pool, I don’t have a goal. There is nothing wrong with not having a goal if you do not want to go anyplace particular. I could go on without a goal and play simply to enjoy the game. But, I think I need to set a goal and build a plan to meet it...

Lately my goal is to have fun. I'm not going to pay league fees, pay for drinks, and maybe food when I go out for an evening and then get stressed out.

So I prefer to only play around other players that are fun to play with. If they are sharking, poor sports, sore losers, etc. That can ruin everyone's fun. Fun is the goal for me!

Some people just want to get good enough to beat a few people at the local bar. Nothing wrong with that.

So far as advancing my game, I have always set small realistic goals which I can reach. Then set higher goals after that.
 
Here in Germany we're organized from top-level playing (Weigoni, Reimering, Poguntke...) down to the beginners.
I play in the lowest league for the 2nd year now, but 3 out of 3 8-Ball matches (race to 3) and 4 out of 4 9-Ball (race to 4) is quite something for me

I'm working on my 14.1 skills atm, as I've lost 3 of 3

Primary goal: Improving my skills, keeping the 8-& 9-Ball 100% ratio as long as possible - a constant balls per visit of 2 + x should be achieved at the end of the season

secondary goal: climbing up 2 or 3 leagues which would mean playing against the top players of the State of Hessen (like North Carolina, California etc...)

non-skill related goal: Buying a Mezz cue:rolleyes:
 
chefjeff said:
Ted, that is interesting. Could you elaborate on the hows and whys of your changing your physical flaws, as it pertains to goals? Did you write down your flaws and then carefully redesign your stroke or did you just happen to find out what you were doing wrong, or what? You decided not to use an instructor, but do it yourself...was that planned or did you just happen to go that way? etc.

I think this might help me (us) to find the path toward fixing physical abnormalities in my (our) shots.

Jeff Livingston

I knew my mechanics were not right because I could feel myself draw the cue stick off line. Also, when I would do a drill to check the trueness of my stroke (hard stroke using centerball along the centerline of the table, it would consistently return with right english). I could see it in a mirror at a place I used to play at and I knew the cause of the inadvertent right english was my stroke plane was out of line. Stroke plane is the vertical alignment of stroking wrist, elbow, upper arm and shoulder, as well as the same side foot.

My problem was my shoulder was outside the plane and my elbow was inside the plane. My upper arm ran diagonally across the plane.

It would seem a simple thing to change. After all, the only thing I needed to do was put my arm on plane, right? Well, it wasn't so easy.

First, I would make a change, going by feel alone. Yet still my stroke did not go straight. But I was sure I had shifted dramatically... So I videotaped myself with the adjustments and viewed the results. The amazing thing was, I'd feel like I'd made a huge change, yet the actual change would be almost imperceptable.

Then I tried various friends to monitor me. After a great deal of frustration, I gave up that idea. I found almost everyone I asked had no idea how to guide my alignment. I could not find a local pool instructor, so I decided to use a mirror at home, try to absorb the feeling of proper alignment, then test it with stroke trueness drills. I used the aforementioned centerline of the table and long straight stop shots, checking to see if I've applied any spin.

I began to observe players who had excellent mechanics. I noticed that nearly all the players who had a free and true stroke stood to the side of the cue, which put the shoulder line quite close to the cue line. This put their left cheek close to or touching their left shoulder (right handed players). Another thing I noticed is the old advice of aligning the feet at a 45* angle from the target line is wrong for modern players, who tend to bend lower than the players from Mosconi's day (when I feel that axiom was adopted). The feet should be only slightly open from the alignment of the target line, more like 15-20*, not 45*. I have the feeling my chest faces the cue, almost perpendicular to my target line. This clears my body completely out of the way and allows my arm to natually find its proper alignment.

Finally, I continue to check my alignment in the mirror. I often close my eyes and try to feel where my shoulder, upper arm, elbow and wrist fall. I make a few strokes like that, then check the mirror to see if I remained on plane.

Needless to say, it's been a tedious process. It's natural to fall back on what feels comfortable--the old way. So inevitably, under pressure I'd drift back to my previous form, or somewhere in between. Each time I'd play hard, I'd have to pull myself back to proper alignment. I can't tell you how many times I've gone back and forth. Forty years of practice is difficult to overcome.

But I need to do less correcting now. When I do go off, I can feel it right away, and I know the adjustments I need to fix it. The benefits of proper alignment are profound, though. Not only has my shotmaking improved, but I can move the cueball with much more freedom.

I will say, if you can find a good instructor, it will make the process a lot easier. In many ways I had to make my own discoveries and then implement them, which was very trying without a trained eye to watch me. Oddly, I knew exactly what I wanted it too look like, but struggled mightily to gain the feel of it. I hope this helps.
 
Right now my goals are to get back the form that I lost 4 years ago because I quit playing and fell in love with a beautiful girl. After our 2 year relationship ended, I started playing again, and have never fully recovered. Someone changed my stance and mechanics around, and from that I developed alot of bad habits. I don't remember how I used to stand. I guess my other goal is to perfect my mechanics, and to figure out why I have days where I just can't think clearly when I'm playing. After I reach those goals, I'll set other ones.
 
DaveK said:
Since I play in a city where most 'players' know each other, there is a definate pecking order. My goals are always focused on these fish, er, players. There are many around here who can beat me regularly, and my goals are to improve to a point where I can beat so-and-so more regularly. When I surpass one or two guys that I have been targeting, then I pick one or two more. Normally these guys are a little ahead of me in the pecking order, I try not to bite off more that I can chew. The unfortunate part is that I have achieved most of my goals within the league I currently play in (over the last 3 or 4 years), and so after Christmas I may have to move up to the big boys. That means I will no longer profit from high finishes in the B league, but I wish to improve more than I wish to win money, so it's gonna be OK.

Dave

Hi Dave,

Do you play out of corner pocket in Waltham???

Pete
 
Pete said:
Hi Dave,

Do you play out of corner pocket in Waltham???

Pete

Sorry Pete, I don't line in Mass. (nor can I spell it :o ). I play mostly at Pacific Ave. Billiards in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada.

Dave
 
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